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Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context ?

Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:19 pm
"Death to all jews"

is that what is says and in context?

Other Muslims claim, Muhammad is about love and much like Jesus teachings

I am just asking if anyone knows or understands

I've never seen the evil we're seeing...in the name of Allah

Do peaceful Muslim's need to disowned Hamas or is there a problem "being a real Muslim?" ?
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:21 pm to
Allah is a bloodthirsty demon at the center of their religion masquerading as being interchangeable with the God of the Bible.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:32 pm to
You should have asked one of his child brides what sort of man he was.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

"Death to all jews"



It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:50 pm to
It is when paired with The Hadith.
Posted by joeyjoejoeshabadoo
DeRidder
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:26 pm to
Islam is incompatible with the West.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

"Death to all jews" is that what is says and in context? Other Muslims claim, Muhammad is about love and much like Jesus teachings


On the contrary, Jews are “people of the book” along with Christians and are not to be forcibly converted or killed but rather to be tolerated.

There were early groups of Torah-observant Jewish Christians in Arabia that Paul wrote about visiting. St Ignacius of Antioch described in letters of heretical Christian groups in Arabia and Egypt who followed the teachings of Jesus but did not believe Jesus was crucified or even died. Most likely one of these groups became the Muslims.

In the Quran, it also states that the Torah and the Gospel were both revealed messages from Allah.

Eloah = generic “god” in Hebrew
Allah = the only “God” in Arabic

quote:

Do peaceful Muslim's need to disowned Hamas or is there a problem "being a real Muslim?"


Yes they do. Anyone who is a “real Muslim” or “real Jew” or “real Christian” who takes their book as the literal word of God is not only deluded but they can become violent extremists. Most religious followers don’t even know what their religious scriptures even say and are happy to to to church or mosque and live their lives respecting others in peace.
Posted by tee3
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:29 pm to
Do the Talmud now
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:31 pm to
Too much for tonight, but their outright bad acts and beliefs are a natural extension of their theology. Not a distortion.
Posted by KwoodTiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:16 pm to
Setting aside interpretation for a moment, let’s look at history.

Muhammad was kicked out of Mecca. Muhammad rallied together warrior tribes to sack Mecca. Those warrior tribes began to fight each other so Muhammad decided to spread Islam by pursing military campaigns. Muhammad personally led 20 military campaigns.

Islam has never been about peace.

Those mf’ers took over the holy land. They occupied the Iberia peninsula. They sacked Constantinople and attempted to sack Vienna when it was the seat of the HRE.

They have always been violent. Their leader was violent. They are following the lead of their leader. It’s what they’ve always done.
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Maybe Maybe Not
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:20 pm to
Islam is a vile plague upon the planet. The end. No, it isn't "taken out of context". No, there is no such thing as a "moderate" Muslim.

Until the world comes to grip with this reality and stops trying to play the whole "all cultures are equally valid" stupidity, nothing will be solved.

Islam needs to be marginalized. Yes. There's a ton of them. Cordon them off and don't let them spread. Treat them in your community the exact same way you'd treat a group of Nazis or KKK members.
Posted by geauxjuice
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:43 am to
quote:

Psalm 137:9
New International Version
9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.


all holy texts have wild passages.

and of course there are plenty of moderate or secular muslims. retarded to assert otherwise.
Posted by paladine36
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:29 am to








Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:25 am to
You just sent up the MAP signal.

AntoniusHankus will soon be here to islama-splain to all the muslims how they don't understand their own religion and white-knight for kid-diddlers, rapists and murderers.

islam is a cancer.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:43 am to
The entire Koran was pulled from Mohammad's rectal aperture as a way to unite his bedouin people under a monotheistic religion because he was tired of them getting their asses kicked by Christians and Jews. No, it's not taken out of context.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I've never seen the evil we're seeing...in the name of Allah

Then you haven't been paying attention. Were you alive in 2001?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:34 am to
Two random notes:

1. The Koran you read is the edited version. Around 1950 they deleted a lot of calls for violence to make it appropriate for English translation. They didn't want shock the west.

2. Islam is much more of an oral tradition than Christianity or Judaism. Some Imams are illiterate. Many of their followers are illiterate. This leads to misinterpretations of actual text.
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:26 pm to
My brother asked the question of what do I think the difference between Jesus and Mohammad.


Jesus is the Son of God. He rose from the dead and defeated death.

Mohammad it is written went straight to Allah.

Mohammad it is written ascending the way Elijah the Prophet did. Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.

Mohammad a self proclaimed prophet and Jesus the Savior.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2294 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:27 pm to
Best that I not post the comprehensive list of excerpts with which I had been provided.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:35 pm to
Everything in the front of the book is superseded by the back of the book.

The front of the book, Islam was just taking hold and was largely a minority. The back of the book Islam had grown to the dominant religion.

You can make your assumptions from there.
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