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So Trump is arguing that he had no duty to support the constitution?

Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:53 pm
"The Presidential oath, which the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment surely knew, requires the President to swear to 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution — not to 'support' the Constitution," said the filing by Trump's attorneys.



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Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84558 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:54 pm to
I’d pay good money to hear Trump explain his understanding of the Constitution for a full two minutes.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179668 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:55 pm to
Trump was just taking a page out of the Dems playbook who shite on the Constitution every chance they get
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53843 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:56 pm to
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I’d pay good money to hear Trump explain his understanding of the Constitution for a full two minutes.


I'd pay $5-10 dollars to hear yours.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
4435 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:56 pm to
He had a constitutional duty to invoke the insurrection act to stop a Manchurian candidate from being installed into the office of the president by our enemies.

If you really want to get technical, but 70% of the country wasn’t “woke” enough to do that.

Give me a break on his constitutional duties.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:59 pm to
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"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:00 pm to
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So Trump is arguing that he had no duty to support the constitution?


This is pretty much the democrat party’s platform
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
12955 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:00 pm to
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Give me a break on his constitutional duties.


I guess he feels the same way? That he was obligated to "defend" the constitution but not "support" the constitution. Is that what you're looking for in a president?

Reminds me of Bill Clinton saying "it depends on what your definition of is is".
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:04 pm to
Why would the plaintiff in this case use the word “support” that is not in the presidential oath to disqualify him for the ballot in Colorado? Why not use the words in the oath to for a solid argument?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57136 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:15 pm to
So that this exact “argument” can be made by the simpletons.

It’s a smart distinction for Trump’s attorneys to make. The basis for not including him on the ballot is his failure to “support” the Constitution…Toss it judge, that isn’t a requirement and this suit has no basis in the law. It’s strictly a procedural argument, but the useful idiots get their talking point.
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:18 pm to
It depends on what the word "is" is.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:42 pm to
Take the loss, Trumps going to win. Your side is no longer selecting who we can vote for.
Your sides petty attacks won't persuade us to vote for any GOPe/uni-party member again.
It's over for your side.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17936 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

He had a constitutional duty to invoke the insurrection act to stop a Manchurian candidate ...


Yes he did and I prayed he would.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43221 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:58 pm to
BBonds is probably the only lawyer I would hire off TD's.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

This is pretty much the democrat party’s platform



Well, he's a democrat so....
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:16 pm to
Yikes
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20364 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

The Presidential oath, which the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment surely knew, requires the President to swear to 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution — not to 'support' the Constitution," said the filing by Trump's attorneys.


That statement is simply stating that whoever filled the suit is an idiot who apparently didn’t even read the Presidential oath before filing the suit. The filers could have easily used the term preserving, or protecting, or defending the Constitution; which are in the oath. But no, instead they accused him of breaking an oath; supporting; that isn’t there.. I am guessing it must simply be incompetence by their law team.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18816 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:10 pm to

quote:

It’s a smart distinction for Trump’s attorneys to make. The basis for not including him on the ballot is his failure to “support” the Constitution…Toss it judge, that isn’t a requirement and this suit has no basis in the law. It’s strictly a procedural argument, but the useful idiots get their talking point.


Thanks bond, a nuance that was obviously missed by the OP who actually posted an argument proving he is a knucklehead.
Posted by tango029
Member since Dec 2022
531 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:08 am to
Doesn't make a lot of sense. You don't even have to be a US citizen to participate in an insurrection, much less take an oath.

I don't see this going anywhere though, if nothing it may provide some future guidance on what exactly constitutes a trigger for the 14th.
Posted by M_Donahue
Member since Oct 2023
32 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:09 am to
A full two minutes on any serious topic would be a challenge for Trump.
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