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re: Grizzly bear kills husband, wife and their dog at national park in Alberta, Canada
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Not exactly a ringing endorsement there
From what I've read you can do everything that you're supposed to and still end up eaten. They can close 100 yards in 3 or so seconds. A lot of the attack survivors say that they didn't know the bear was there until they hear it breathing. A lot of folks don't have time to draw their bear spray or sidearm once they realize it's there.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:49 pm to cattus
Bear spray is good and all but the article even quotes people who live around there who say they go out there armed, particularly this time of year.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:50 pm to Erdace
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The couple were experienced campers, says family friend
But the Grizzly was an experienced bear.
357 Mag is the only answer for camping in that neck of the woods IMO.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:54 pm to Loup
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They can close 100 yards in 3 or so seconds.
What? I read "up to" 35mph
100yds in 3 seconds is a hell of alot faster than 35mph max. The math says that's about 67mph
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:54 pm to Erdace
That bear woulda checked my knuckles and known not to mess with me
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:56 pm to Erdace
Grizzly bear. Damn. He is him.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:01 pm to Stagliano
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100yds in 3 seconds is a hell of alot faster than 35mph max. The math says that's about 67mph
Don't make me do math when I'm drinking, baw.
They're scary af to me regardless of if his close 100 yds in 3 seconds or 8 to 9.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:06 pm to Mike da Tigah
Friend,
I rely on bear spray and prayer when camping out west. Grizzlies are the only mammals for which I do not give thanks. I had a terrible encounter with one in Montana doing all the right things, and spray and God’s hand were the only things that saved me.
The people I have camped with before who use guns say a 357 is too small. They carry 44 magnums.
A tragedy to hear these monsters have murdered more humans. Write to your Congress members telling them to stop the NPS from their forced grizzly reintroduction
plans throughout the West.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
I rely on bear spray and prayer when camping out west. Grizzlies are the only mammals for which I do not give thanks. I had a terrible encounter with one in Montana doing all the right things, and spray and God’s hand were the only things that saved me.
The people I have camped with before who use guns say a 357 is too small. They carry 44 magnums.
A tragedy to hear these monsters have murdered more humans. Write to your Congress members telling them to stop the NPS from their forced grizzly reintroduction
plans throughout the West.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:09 pm to Loup
No doubt lol I'm still unconvinced I couldnt stay opposite that big bastard from a 3ft pine tree. I think he gets pissed off and moves on with his life after 1-2hrs. I'm just not accepting I cant shimmy around that tree as fast as something 600lbs. With a whole lot more skin in the game
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:11 pm to Townedrunkard
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Does that even work on a grizzly? I’ve read that’s is not super useful and to have the right gun instead.
I believe bear spray has a better success rate than firearms, but in a perfect world you should have both. Obviously, being Canada, you’re not going to be able to carry a handgun with you, so that’s out.
I did some research before going to Glacier. Our B&B had extra bear spray that we borrowed but I brought a my 10mm loaded with 220gr hard cast bullets as well. I’m much more proficient with that than I am with bear spray, so I wanted to have options just in case.
10mm is by no means a great bear gun, but with the right bullets I felt it was a safe choice. The 44 mag was just too heavy to worry about lugging around, in an area where the risk of a bear attack is low. Also, I’d rather have 15 rounds instead of 6.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:15 pm to Mike da Tigah
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357 Mag is the only answer for camping in that neck of the woods IMO.
It’s an answer, but not the best one.
There’s a guide that killed one with a 9mm that was about to attack his client, so it is possible, but ideally, you want to have at least a .44 magnum in a handgun.
Whatever you have, I’d want to have the heaviest hard cast bullets I could find.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:19 pm to TulaneLSU
A human that knows better kills another human and gets a few years in prison. A wild animal in its native habitat kills a human and gets tracked down and killed immediately. Something is off with this concept.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:22 pm to Erdace
We were just up in Banff, Golden and Glacier NP for 2 weeks hiking every day. Dogs were not allowed on most of the trails. We didn’t see any bears (or moose or elk) the entire time.
I don’t want to even think about protecting ourselves with bear spray against a charging grizzly. You might have a few seconds to get your spray and use it and hope the wind is blowing in the right direction.
That’s a scary situation.
I don’t want to even think about protecting ourselves with bear spray against a charging grizzly. You might have a few seconds to get your spray and use it and hope the wind is blowing in the right direction.
That’s a scary situation.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:31 pm to Stagliano
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I'm just not accepting I cant shimmy around that tree as fast as something 600lbs. With a whole lot more skin in the game
You wouldn’t stand a chance.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:37 pm to Theduckhunter
If you're gonna run, try running downhill. I've heard they don't run well downhill, but I don't know how true it is.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:38 pm to Erdace
You come across a grizzly bear this time of year, you better believe that baw is hungry.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:39 pm to Theduckhunter
Back it up, theoretically
The bear is probably 20mph faster in a straight line. But how does a 600lb animal circle that massive tree and put claws on me. With me knowing I'll be eaten a limb at a time. My stamina would be impeccable
The bear is probably 20mph faster in a straight line. But how does a 600lb animal circle that massive tree and put claws on me. With me knowing I'll be eaten a limb at a time. My stamina would be impeccable
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:39 pm to Theduckhunter
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I believe bear spray has a better success rate than firearms, but in a perfect world you should have both.
An air horn does a good job of keeping them far enough away that you don’t need the spray. I’m sure their dog knew about the bear before they did but sounds like they still didn’t have much time to avoid an attack. Scary just thinking about it.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:41 pm to Erdace
I had to pull out bear spray last year in Glacier as one came within 25 yards to check us out. We were alone on the trail at the time. Very bone chilling experience.
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