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re: Grizzly bear kills husband, wife and their dog at national park in Alberta, Canada

Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4222 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:51 am to
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This makes my blood boil. Let's kill the nature because it's doing nature again. They put themselves in the situation. FAFO.


Kind of disagree. A bear killing 2 people and a dog is not doing that out of hunger. Could be a mama bear feeling she had to protect cubs but more likely is that is just a pissed off animal that needs become a rug.

and that is the opinion of a very pacifist person.
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
1509 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:54 am to
I don't think Canada lets you carry a .454 Casull.

I was in Alaska for a couple of months hiking trails and doing a bit of photography.

My transportation was in a company vehicle and the company has a policy of no weapons so I was down to a can of bear spray. Some locals thought that was stupid and I did too.

I saw a lot of folks wearing these.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1110 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:59 am to
how big is a grizzly

you better get a bigger tree,

that thing has a 3-4' reach

he be batting you around from his side of the tree

dr
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:03 am to
It is usually the lone males that will attack. Bear spray won't do anything for them. I was reading a story on reddit about a guy on a kayak trip in Canada. Was dropped off by plane. Had a lone male hunt him for 3 days. It was terrifying
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13459 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:05 am to
Humans are the only species of animal where at least a portion of it feels this way and takes the side of the beast that would gladly kill them.

Every other species: "F**k you, bear."

How do these people feel about household pests? Do they somethines feel obligated to transfer their home title over to insects and mice? After all- they invaded their space....
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34777 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:05 am to
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But it now has a taste for human blood. Those people are stupid liberals but the bear is now going to want more human taste.
do they even eat humans? I thought that was more of a polar bear thing
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:11 am to
I thought dogs were good alarms for bear encroachment because of their noses. Looks like they are just good appetizers before the main entree. Played golf in Durango Co. a few years ago in the mountains that had some isolated areas I was thinking that cougars could be anywhere. Ways I don't won't to die is being ate by some type of wildlife. And I love the outdoors.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4707 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:14 am to
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No doubt lol I'm still unconvinced I couldnt stay opposite that big bastard from a 3ft pine tree. I think he gets pissed off and moves on with his life after 1-2hrs. I'm just not accepting I cant shimmy around that tree as fast as something 600lbs. With a whole lot more skin in the game

I respect your devotion to this theory of yours, but you're missing, if you will, the forest for the tree.

Ask yourself this - how many bear attack survivors, and there have been many, have claimed the "ol' keep the tree between us" strategy as the trick to their survival?

i will say this though, to your point, you might be able to buy a couple precious seconds using this strategy, and that might be the time you needed to get your bearspray out and armed
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
556 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:46 am to
Why people elect to put themselves in life/death situations always blows my mind
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4707 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:52 am to
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Why people elect to put themselves in life/death situations always blows my mind

what are you referring to as a life/death situation?
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
556 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:57 am to
Camping where man eaters are in the area. Kinda like diving around man eating sharks….
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1483 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:57 am to
I would like to read that. Can you post link?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55313 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:01 am to
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Bear spray won't do anything for them



You couldn’t be more wrong, do some research
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17942 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:01 am to
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Camping where man eaters are in the area. Kinda like diving around man eating sharks….

Mosquitoes kill significantly more people. Do you go outside, ever?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:20 am to
LINK

Here's the article on it. They were lucky.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4707 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:21 am to
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Camping where man eaters are in the area. Kinda like diving around man eating sharks….

this is a really, really dumb take. not to mention that it's hardly a "life and death" situation. driving around town in your car is much more risky than camping or backpacking in grizzly country. probably by a couple orders of magnitude.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:21 am to
Okay buddy. Just relaying what people who actually deal with them say.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1688 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:25 am to
Some articles at ammoland regarding pistols, bears and bear spray.

Pistols 98% effective

Bear spray is human seasoning

Lessons from handgun failures
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4707 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:39 am to
that "human seasoning" headline/ article (blog is more like it) is complete garbage. anyone with even a passing knowledge of statistics and how they work know that there is no way to accurately make the assessment that a gun is better than bearspray. first off, almost any time a bear is shot in an attack on a human, it's going to get reported and recorded. that is not so for bear spray defenses. there is no way to determine the number of times bear spray has been successfully deployed against an aggressive grizzly. DENOMINATORS MATTER and it's, at the very least, irresponsible to discourage people from carrying bearspray.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:41 am to
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that "human seasoning" headline/ article (blog is more like it) is complete garbage.


well, it comes from Ammoland, Inc.
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