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Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:39 pm to The Truth 34
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All you old baws need to take note
Hard pass.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:46 pm to mjax57
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Like it or not, the tv timeouts are so excessive. So much damn dead time these days attending games.
Seems worse this season. Not sure if fitting in more commercials when they can or just feels that way with clock running more often.
Consecutive time outs and untimed down changes are fine, but probably should have tried to decrease play clock before 1st down change or included at same time if picking up pace & lowering plays are the goals. When both teams consistently run off nearly 40 seconds between many plays without action then add on injuries, reviews, measurements, penalties, & delays getting back from commercials it can seem like too much game clock time and real time are ticking off between plays. Change of possessions, scores, quarters, and other stoppages pile on.
While football’s action can’t be as continuous as basketball’s it had a lot of actual game clock ticking off already when teams are not even lined up. I purchased a game once on iTunes with older rules, and it was like 20 minutes for just the live plays plus time lined up at line of scrimmage to include audibles, shifts, & motion. Some NFL games reportedly are 11 to 15 minutes for just live plays. They try to lower plays & actual amount of live play time by running game clock more than it already did while keeping the same play clocks and keeping same if not more commercials in between the action while saying it’s for player safety. Schools will probably continue to increase prices for less football.
Below was back in February. The length of games is obviously due to big TV contracts.
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With fewer plays, Division II and Division III games could be reduced to less than 2 hours and 20 minutes, according Todd Berry, executive director of the American Football Coaches Association and ex-member of the committee.
"Division II and Division II will probably revolt," Berry told CBS Sports. "Their game times are still underneath 3 hours. They're running the exact same offenses. … I think one of the beauties of the college game is that our rules are the same across the board."
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:50 pm to fastlane
Man I knew Supamike when he weighed about 120. My man got thick as he aged.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:16 pm to dallastigers
There’s a good article in The Athletic that takes a deep dive into the question of whether clock changes have led to more commercials. Short answer: no.
In fact it turns out that the number and length of commercial breaks per quarter are pre-defined in the conferences’ TV contracts:
There are some scenarios that allow the network to sneak in more commercials - like player injuries or 30-second timeouts - but for the most part the number and lengths of breaks are set in stone. According to the Athletic article, the SEC’s contractual limits have not changed this year.
I did get a chuckle out of this line though:
Shocker.
In fact it turns out that the number and length of commercial breaks per quarter are pre-defined in the conferences’ TV contracts:
There are some scenarios that allow the network to sneak in more commercials - like player injuries or 30-second timeouts - but for the most part the number and lengths of breaks are set in stone. According to the Athletic article, the SEC’s contractual limits have not changed this year.
I did get a chuckle out of this line though:
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No broadcast takes more commercial breaks than the SEC on CBS.
Shocker.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:22 pm to Colonel Angus
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disparage the Cadillac Cafe
You win the internet today!
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:47 pm to fastlane
This lies somewhere on the continuum between sad and stupid.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:19 pm to fastlane
Others are chasing what we have and they can’t catch it because it’s organic.
The more non-organic crap we add, the further we get away from being who we are.
Which is the freaking best of all sports.
The more non-organic crap we add, the further we get away from being who we are.
Which is the freaking best of all sports.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:01 pm to lostinbr
That’s still a lot of commercials. Basically same commercial time with less actual football action time and less total real time for games is giving the unchanged commercial times more weight. The perception of more commercials is actually making people see that commercials are adding 45 minutes or more to games in a sport which already has more time between action/plays and more game clock running outside of those action/plays than many other timed sports. Over twice as much time in guaranteed commercials as the actual time of all live plays combined.
Even after a score in basketball there is action happening with defending and trying to get open. I don’t get why clock is not stopped (but don’t get offsides either), but towards end of soccer matches ref holds up a card with added time to make up for some lost time. It’s been a while but hockey seemed to keep action flowing with players changes happening on the fly and so on.
Problem was there, but they just made it more obvious with this change not less like they were hoping.
Even after a score in basketball there is action happening with defending and trying to get open. I don’t get why clock is not stopped (but don’t get offsides either), but towards end of soccer matches ref holds up a card with added time to make up for some lost time. It’s been a while but hockey seemed to keep action flowing with players changes happening on the fly and so on.
Problem was there, but they just made it more obvious with this change not less like they were hoping.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:11 pm to fastlane
While I don’t particularly care for it, I can tell you the students were loving it, and it did hype them up. I think you could take the student section and the south end zone and that would be the source of 85 percent of the crowd noise.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:12 pm to Geaux Guy
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Geaux Guy
Well said and on point.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:24 pm to bengalmd
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I think you could take the student section and the south end zone and that would be the source of 85 percent of the crowd noise.
Are students still in north endzone (maybe a little more NNW endzone) with the band section below the scoreboard?
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:29 pm to dallastigers
Yes. Band is a little more on the western side of the scoreboard
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:54 pm to fastlane
Well, if it’s a dj from the millennial, y, or z generation, you know it’s gonna suck. Look what they did to Star Wars franchise, to music, to comedy, to lord of the rings prime series, the hobbit, etc etc. they have the “Minus Touch”
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:28 am to shutterspeed
quote:"Look old man, we must conform! More LED, more DJ! They're doing it so we have to do it too!"
Time to get with the times, golden oldies
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:29 am to dallastigers
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Basically same commercial time with less actual football action time and less total real time for games is giving the unchanged commercial times more weight.
That is a fair point and seems to be legit based on the data in that Athletic article.
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Problem was there, but they just made it more obvious with this change not less like they were hoping.
So something else I read in The Athletic (a companion article to the one I posted above) - apparently the clock changes weren’t really driven by TV windows, at least according to conference commissioners.
Supposedly the real purpose of the clock changes was actually to reduce the number of plays in each game. I guess one of the things people have used to oppose the 12-team playoff is the fact that teams will be playing more games. If you remove 6-7 plays per game over the course of a 12-game regular season, that’s 72-84 less plays on each side of the ball. Which basically allows the NCAA to sidestep any player safety criticism.
Maybe this is common knowledge, but it was news to me. I was under the impression that this was all about fitting games into TV windows.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:34 am to fastlane
Get rid of this trashy piped in DJ crap. It’s a football game with a band.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:43 am to fastlane
Middle aged LSU fans “EVERY GAME MUST BE AT NIGHT AND THE BAND MUST PLAY FOR THE ENTIRE GAME, REGARDLESS OF HOW BAD IT SUCKS NOW”
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:52 am to SmoothBox
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Middle aged LSU fans “EVERY GAME MUST BE AT NIGHT AND THE BAND MUST PLAY FOR THE ENTIRE GAME, REGARDLESS OF HOW BAD IT SUCKS NOW”
Young LSU fans "We have to be like all these other stadiums! We have to conform! We have to blend in!"
Put that 30A sticker on Tiger Stadium and tuck the front of your shirt in behind your belt buckle.
BTW, the call for night games has pervaded through many generations. Those who were young, grow old.
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