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Am I the only one that doesn't think our Secondary was bad vs FSU?

Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:13 am
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2688 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:13 am
I don't think they were great by no means, but it wasn't like they were getting picked apart. Every deep pass was a contested throw in 1 on 1 coverage. Our DBs always hade their hands in the catch zone causing a few PBUs. Most of the short stuff were checkdown slants to a 6'7" reciever being covered by a linebacker or safety. FSU didn't often have wide open recievers and the only time they did was short crossers that weren't even the DBs responsibility. I also cant blame our dbs for getting beat after 10 seconds of the QB siting in the pocket because our D-line was geting zero pressure in obvious passing downs (mostly schematic), specifically I was actually impressed at how well our secondary held their own against probably a top 3 receiving core in the country.

I think this was a coaching failure through and through. Daniels has to take some blame for refusing to push the ball down field. But this was a offensive and defensive masterclass on what not to do against a playoff caliber team. Offensively we were too conservative when marching down the field, but then too fancy in short yardard situations. Defensively we wouldn't bring extra rushers until it was so obvious it hurt, then instead of doing a 5 or 6 man blitz on third downs we either rush 3 against one of the best passing offense in the country giving JT 10+ seconds to find a reciever or we send a 7 man blitz on a 5 reciever set walking straight into a RB screen like fricking retards... like what the actual frick were they thinking?
Posted by Walter White Jr
Member since Aug 2021
496 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Am I the only one that doesn't think our Secondary was bad vs FSU?


Apparently so
Posted by MrWalkingMan
31st Parallel North
Member since Aug 2010
6713 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:15 am to
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FSU didn't often have wide open recievers

We must have been watching different games
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10894 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:16 am to
They were in position to make some plays but got out played athletically on some of those balls. Their receivers were just better. We won’t see better this year.
Posted by Cd104444
Member since Aug 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:18 am to
Yes you are the secondary stunk and was outmatched
Posted by Dstllsu
Ga
Member since Jan 2016
1693 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:19 am to
Yes. The talent just isn't there
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4761 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:22 am to
I do believe it is one of those 'not as bad as it looked' situations. They did lose some coverage and missed a few tackles, but they were in good position on a few of those K. Coleman big plays where the ball was thrown perfectly. One could argue we played the best QB/WRs combo we'll see all season.

Not ready to give up on this group. They were further hurt by ZERO sacks (see other threads about HP) and if that does not change our DBs, regardless of who they are, will continue to get victimized.

Posted by LSUVAFAN
Stephens City, VA
Member since Jan 2007
962 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:24 am to
I think the biggest problem with the CB play will be against taller receivers. Our boys could not make the plays against a great QB.
Posted by TigeronTop
Singer, La
Member since Sep 2013
108 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:26 am to
The middle of the field was open all day
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
41846 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:28 am to
Another point: Was every single secondary we played against in 2019 bad, or were Joe Burrow and his receivers great?

We faced an excellent QB with excellent receivers. THAT's what happened. If we were going to beat FSU it was going to be because our offense outperformed theirs. THAT's what didn't happen.
Posted by Tigaux6661
Member since Aug 2022
388 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:40 am to
I agree. Travis had too much time and 1 on 1 was covered good enough but talent prevailed.


For us to win we needed to hang in a shootout.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
8361 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:41 am to
quote:

don't think they were great by no means


They were just outclassed. There were a handful of plays were we were in position, but they still made the big play. That's what happens when a QB trusts talented receivers (not that we'll ever know)
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29306 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:44 am to
The scheme of having them play almost a quarters scheme was insane. They were often times so far off the WR and they were running free. Whole game plan was terrible.
Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Member since Apr 2022
576 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:09 am to
I chalk up a good number of completions and “should’ve beens” to inability to maintain containment and a lot of time to throw. Even the best will suffer from a “10 Mississippi “ rush
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
51611 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:11 am to
Nobody can cover for 6 seconds. Gotta get pressure
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2023
1157 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:16 am to
I agree with you to some degree. I think tackling was bad but the secondary didn’t get much help because there was rarely an effective pass rush and it’s hard to hold coverage when Travis scrambled out of the pocket. There were a lot of contested catches, where they were in great position but lost.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5846 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:37 am to
Last 6 drives

5 TD and a FG
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
360 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:05 am to
I felt like the LBs in zone were really abused this game.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9539 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:08 am to


We could not match up against their receivers or tight ends. The few times we played man we got beat pretty easily. Which is why House played mainly zone. And with an experienced QB and no pass rush you're going to get beat because the QB is going to find the holes all game. Which is exactly what happened. They were not "lost" like our linebackers were in coverage but they could not match up against FSU.
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