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Anybody else think Disney Stock hits low 70's on Wed??
Posted on 8/7/23 at 5:12 am
Posted on 8/7/23 at 5:12 am
I am an unfortunate holder of this stock with an avg at around 130. I havent bought any shares in like 7 or 8 months but if this hits low 70's on bad earnings which i'm expecting i may double my position. I think Disney is pretty close to it's lowest point as far as brand/movies in a very long time. I know alot of people hate Disney right now but 5 years from now buying it in the 70's will hopefully have been a great decision. Anybody else loading up if it gets in the 70's on Wed?
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 5:16 am
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:40 am to FLObserver
I sold at a loss.
The lgtbq deal is going to run continue running off families from their products.
The lgtbq deal is going to run continue running off families from their products.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:21 am to FLObserver
Disney is a very interesting long term buy since you’re basically paying for the parks and getting the media side for free. The rub is how much that media side should be worth at all.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:40 am to FLObserver
Disney is fully committed to woke. I honestly don’t think they care about losing money at this point as long as they are praised by the alphabet mafia. They have ruined all of their movie franchises recently. Snow Off White will be a huge flop next year. At least Bud stopped digging their own hole but Disney is buying an excavator. This stock will go lower.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 9:43 am
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:49 am to FLObserver
I’m at 67 shares at avg cost of $87.4. I’ve been slowly buying as it sits in the $83-90 range. I’ll continue to buy small increments if it retracts into the $70’s.
DIS has lost any momentum in the near term. Investor sentiment is abysmal. However, this is a long term hold for me, at least 20+ years (for reference I’m in my late 30’s). I’ve done pretty well in the past buying blue chip stocks when they were “down” and temporarily out of favor (ex. BA, CVX, and IBM).
Iger shopping stakes in ESPN is interesting. They need to get out entirely.
DIS has lost any momentum in the near term. Investor sentiment is abysmal. However, this is a long term hold for me, at least 20+ years (for reference I’m in my late 30’s). I’ve done pretty well in the past buying blue chip stocks when they were “down” and temporarily out of favor (ex. BA, CVX, and IBM).
Iger shopping stakes in ESPN is interesting. They need to get out entirely.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 9:51 am
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:59 pm to FLObserver
If I can not believe in the company, I can not purchase their stocks
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:10 pm to FLObserver
No, and I shorted at $88.89 on 7/31/23. If/when it's down around $83.50, I'm out.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:11 pm to FLObserver
quote:
I am an unfortunate holder of this stock with an avg at around 130.
Damn son. You might as well ride it to the ground now.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 3:19 pm to FLObserver
Yes, I believe the stock will continue to tank until they can get the Blackrock activist off their board. If some of the rumors are to be believed, Igar is trying to right the ship but people on their board are more worried about politics than protecting share holders. That actress for Snow White is doing everything she can to make sure that movie loses money. Its a stinker. Haunted Mansion is losing money. The Marvels is going to lose money. Park attendance is down because people do not want to spend their money on woke propaganda.
It is a real shame that Nelson Pelz's lost the proxy fight because of Blackrock money. He was fighting when the price was around $100 to $110. This is not the DIS you know, the brand is damaged and losing market share.
Stock will drop when the comcast bill comes due.
It is a real shame that Nelson Pelz's lost the proxy fight because of Blackrock money. He was fighting when the price was around $100 to $110. This is not the DIS you know, the brand is damaged and losing market share.
Stock will drop when the comcast bill comes due.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 3:28 pm to FLObserver
Had a conversation with some buddies about DIS this weekend. They are ruining all of their purchased IPs and can't put out animated kids movies without some progressive agenda. Disney is dead without new leadership. I don't know how far it will keep dropping, but its not even what I would consider cheap. Trades at a 39x P/E.
Asset sales could give the stock some positive momentum near term, but idk.
Asset sales could give the stock some positive momentum near term, but idk.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:11 pm to FLObserver
No.
Their board and CEO have no will to make a change. Until people start getting fired - it will continue to drop in price.
They have a complicated deal with Comcast and they own them a TON of cash in the near future. They don’t have that kind of cash.
They destroyed Star Wars.
They destroyed Indiana Jones.
They have no movies in production that are not “live action remakes” or prequels of old material.
They have fired so many people there is no one creative left.
Disney + is losing subscribers.
Disney parks have the lowest attendance in a decade.
Disney Vacation Club cannot sell out properties it built years ago (Aulani and Riveria) and has another development coming in a few years (Polynesian).
Not to mention Universals expansion for the parks.
Disney is in serious serious trouble. It needs to start selling its media assets but all of them will be worth a fraction of what they paid because of the limited buyers and the high interest rates.
I am not saying it’s not a long term hold. The question is:
How many years do you have to hold? I don’t see it hitting 150 for at least 10-20 years or more and I can double my money with a company that knows what it is doing.
Their board and CEO have no will to make a change. Until people start getting fired - it will continue to drop in price.
They have a complicated deal with Comcast and they own them a TON of cash in the near future. They don’t have that kind of cash.
They destroyed Star Wars.
They destroyed Indiana Jones.
They have no movies in production that are not “live action remakes” or prequels of old material.
They have fired so many people there is no one creative left.
Disney + is losing subscribers.
Disney parks have the lowest attendance in a decade.
Disney Vacation Club cannot sell out properties it built years ago (Aulani and Riveria) and has another development coming in a few years (Polynesian).
Not to mention Universals expansion for the parks.
Disney is in serious serious trouble. It needs to start selling its media assets but all of them will be worth a fraction of what they paid because of the limited buyers and the high interest rates.
I am not saying it’s not a long term hold. The question is:
How many years do you have to hold? I don’t see it hitting 150 for at least 10-20 years or more and I can double my money with a company that knows what it is doing.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 5:52 pm to FLObserver
I don’t think it’ll get that low.
Disney has lost their way.
Disney used to be a family company with a wholesome brand. Now they’ve entered the culture wars where you piss off 50% of people whatever you do. Not a sound business strategy.
It’s obvious their internal business culture is toxic and I have a hard time seeing how they will maximize shareholder value.
Disney has lost their way.
Disney used to be a family company with a wholesome brand. Now they’ve entered the culture wars where you piss off 50% of people whatever you do. Not a sound business strategy.
It’s obvious their internal business culture is toxic and I have a hard time seeing how they will maximize shareholder value.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:20 pm to FLObserver
What part of go woke, go broke didn’t you understand?
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:22 pm to FLObserver
quote:I don't think it will drop over 15% in two days.
Anybody else think Disney Stock hits low 70's on Wed??
Posted on 8/8/23 at 7:58 pm to FLObserver
Between the parks/Florida real estate, video library, and intellectual rights, what is the number where this alone justifies their stock price? Honestly don’t know, but curious if anyone has done research on this.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:33 am to FLObserver
Worse than the woke part and purely from a financial perspective, Iger bet big on Disney+ and Chapick continued on that path. But, instead of charging a premium for their brand/content, they made the subscription price so low (to compete with the others) that all they did was chase subscribers.
Now, they have 150M global subscribers on Disney+, while losing $500M-$1B per Quarter on Disney+, while simultaneously gutting their linear business by reducing the number of channels that they had globally. They accelerated the demise of their cash cow to focus content and energy on an exclusive basis into Disney+.
When interviewed by CNBC, Iger said he had to turn it around but didn’t say how.
I’m in the media industry way on the backend technical services side, and none of my colleagues have ever seen anything like this.
My best guess is that Disney will be acquired, and Apple is the most likely buyer.
Now, they have 150M global subscribers on Disney+, while losing $500M-$1B per Quarter on Disney+, while simultaneously gutting their linear business by reducing the number of channels that they had globally. They accelerated the demise of their cash cow to focus content and energy on an exclusive basis into Disney+.
When interviewed by CNBC, Iger said he had to turn it around but didn’t say how.
I’m in the media industry way on the backend technical services side, and none of my colleagues have ever seen anything like this.
My best guess is that Disney will be acquired, and Apple is the most likely buyer.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:32 pm to FLObserver
I just don't see the existing Disney conglomerate existing much past the end of 2026 (Iger's contract). He's structuring/posturing the company to:
1. Sell off ESPN/ABC, etc., get out of the sports and broadcast TV business,
2. Package the balance of the company as an attractive (and legal) merger option for likely partner Apple,
3. Failing #2, solidify the parks as a discrete corporate entity (even if a privately held one), and sell off the Disney mega-IPs (Animation, Marvel, Lucasfilm)
Problem is - how much is the IP currently worth? Lucasfilm is likely not worth what Disney paid for it (because of Disney), so it would have to be dirt cheap to even be viable. Obviously, Marvel and Disney/Pixar have a lot of legit residual value, but that would be diluted if Disney Parks have the rights in perpetuity.
Who would be the buyers if a mega-merger with Apple isn't in the works?
Some of this would have happened anyway with the changing media market/post COVID environment, etc. However, Disney's actions in alienating huge swaths of their customer based have hurt the shareholders who apparently don't care. Or don't care enough to make substantive, long-term changes unrelated to this current Iger monetization plan.
1. Sell off ESPN/ABC, etc., get out of the sports and broadcast TV business,
2. Package the balance of the company as an attractive (and legal) merger option for likely partner Apple,
3. Failing #2, solidify the parks as a discrete corporate entity (even if a privately held one), and sell off the Disney mega-IPs (Animation, Marvel, Lucasfilm)
Problem is - how much is the IP currently worth? Lucasfilm is likely not worth what Disney paid for it (because of Disney), so it would have to be dirt cheap to even be viable. Obviously, Marvel and Disney/Pixar have a lot of legit residual value, but that would be diluted if Disney Parks have the rights in perpetuity.
Who would be the buyers if a mega-merger with Apple isn't in the works?
Some of this would have happened anyway with the changing media market/post COVID environment, etc. However, Disney's actions in alienating huge swaths of their customer based have hurt the shareholders who apparently don't care. Or don't care enough to make substantive, long-term changes unrelated to this current Iger monetization plan.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:51 pm to FLObserver
I’m really starting to think Apple is taking a long look at buying Disney. I’m thinking about getting in at some price point.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:23 pm to FLObserver
I don't see how anyone could buy this stock as long as the company keeps making the worst decisions imaginable.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:22 am to FLObserver
Disney is in a woke death spiral. Their brand is wholesome family entertainment but they are now associated with pedophiles and perverts. Not going to be able to change that with Iger at the helm.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 12:24 am
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