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re: Morgan Stanley credits ‘Bidenomics’ in lifting its U.S. economic-growth outlook.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:31 am to cmayes56
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:31 am to cmayes56
As someone who invest, I'm not complaining.
The issue I take up with this is the people on the left cheering these profits for big banks simply bc it looks like a win for Biden, currently.
The issue I take up with this is the people on the left cheering these profits for big banks simply bc it looks like a win for Biden, currently.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:32 am to BuzzdLightBeer
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Data shows that 65 percent of taxpayers with a household income of $500,000 or more were in Democratic districts, while 74 percent of taxpayers with a household income of $100,000 or less were in Republican districts.
DNC - party of the little people. The working class. Yeah, my arse, just like Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:34 am to CAPEX
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Bidenomics
this is never going to be a thing, no matter how hard people try to make it a thing
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:38 am to CAPEX
Well… under Biden the rich get richer. He’s a big fan of Wall Street. Wall Street is a big fan of his.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:38 am to Ross
Just wanted to say how shocked I am that a left wing organization is touting this progressive administration.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:39 am to cmayes56
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. if you can’t admit that it’s because you simply refuse to acknowledge the country is doing really well economically.
Inflation has doubled since Joe Biden took office. The average price of a gallon of gas is $3.50. American families hold more credit card debt than at any previous time in history, and that doesn’t include all the other debt. The cost of owning and maintaining a home now makes up nearly 40% of household income.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:43 am to cmayes56
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Lowest unemployment in 60 years 13 million new jobs CHIP Lowest inflation of all G7 countries Infrastructure Investment GDP at 2% growth These are all good things.. if you can’t admit that it’s because you simply refuse to acknowledge the country is doing really well economically.
Okay this sounds good in theory. But my wallet has a problem with believing things are great. Not to mention, inflation may be slowing down, but the lowest of G7 nations is the white speckle of chicken shite. Prices are still up while wage growth is nominal at best.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:45 am to CAPEX
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And they nudged up their forecast for GDP in 2024 by a tenth of a percentage point, to 1.4%.
This was posted here already this week.
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Anecdotally, my firm is pretty happy with Biden's leadership from what I can tell.
You hear that when you’re bringing in the coffee?
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:48 am to Mister Flawless
Wage increase thus far in 2023 sits at 3.8%.
The President doesn’t set retail prices. Perhaps the huge corps showing record profits is the problem
The President doesn’t set retail prices. Perhaps the huge corps showing record profits is the problem
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:51 am to cmayes56
Real wages today are lower than they were in February 2020.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:53 am to CAPEX
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. I work at an investment firm.
How’s that cubicle working out for you?
Reality is small businesses and the middle class are not doing well. Corporations and the ultra wealthy love this economy though.
Keep licking those boots and working your way up the corporate ladder.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:54 am to the808bass
US Real Average Hourly Earnings is at a current level of 11.05, up from 11.03 last month and up from 10.92 one year ago. This is a change of 0.18% from last month and 1.19% from one year ago.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:55 am to cmayes56
Why have wages had to go up so quickly? That seems a little weird, doesn't it?
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:00 pm to cmayes56
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US Real Average Hourly Earnings is at a current level of 11.05, up from 11.03 last month and up from 10.92 one year ago. This is a change of 0.18% from last month and 1.19% from one year ago.
If only there was a word to describe such a growth. Rapid? No. Escalating? No. Those words sound like large bursts. These numbers sound relatively small…almost nominal.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:01 pm to CAPEX
This should bring out the Democrat wing nuts in droves.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:06 pm to cmayes56
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13 million new jobs
Mother
fricking
Liar
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:06 pm to CAPEX
quote:I don't see it as booming. In the last 7.5 months it has grown only 1.84%. Extrapolated, that's a annual growth rate of 2.95%, which, considering the average annual rate of growth is around 8%, 2.95% is anemic.
the stock market is booming.
In fact, the market is still down 5% from the market high during the Biden administration.
Hardly booming and most investors remain extremely nervous about Biden and his handlers' Ukraine war policies leading to direct engagement by US troops, and continued fear of a banking failure.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:07 pm to CAPEX
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The US economy is doing very well and the stock market is booming.
Not exactly. While the market is doing well, the economy is still suffering.
While the rate of inflation has shrunk, it's still increasing and it's outpaced wages by so much and for so long that most buyers are still behind even though they're being told they are doing better (see: 1984 & chocolate rations).
Let's look at CPI's Food category, for instance. Food inflation has come down, but you have to consider that:
A: It's still high (5.7% for last month)
B: There's a compounding effect once you go back beyond just 12 months. For example, the June 2023 12-month is 5.7%, which is 5.7% over the 9.1% from last year, which was an increase of 9.1% over the previous year, meaning we currently see an average increase of ~16.3% from 2021 prices.
I think the problem with the Food category is that there's no weighting (at least that I know of) based on most-purchased items (like bread or soft drinks), meaning that items with lower price increases are likely skewing the overall change lower than what consumers are actually experiencing.
Let's take bread (by pound) for example.
In June 2021 the national average price was $1.510/pound
In June 2022 the national average price was $1.691/pound
In June 2023 the national average price was $1.937/pound
This means we saw a ~10.3% increase from June 2021 to June 2022 then a ~12.% increase from June 2022 to June 2023. So for something like bread, we still see over a 20% increase in price even though the rate of inflation on it is dropping. That's well above the average CPI for food and it's a product most people buy. It's a similar story with soft drinks.
This is why people are still complaining that their grocery bills are so high even though the implications levelled when touting the drop in CPI is that their bills should be lower.
We can look at other aspects of the economy to see current and/or likely future issues as well (the auto industry is prepping for a new-car-buying drought, for example).
Yet another we can look at is employment. The LFPR, for example, has stalled well below the pre-COVID levels even though we've seen thousands and thousands of layoffs over the last 6-8 months. Another example is that the vast majority of the new jobs being created (the actual new jobs, not just the post-COVID refills) have been service industry jobs (government and tourism/leisure). Those aren't as sustainable as manufacturing (which seems to have plateaued since December-ish).
And finally, there's the fact that Congress (and Biden) still seem hellbent on spending however much they want regardless of revenues. Their idea to address this? Hold spending to FY2022 levels (which is the 4th highest annual deficit on record: OMB spreadsheet). Such high levels of deficit spending creates inflation by creating Dollars out of thin air.
Effectively we're whistling while walking through the graveyard.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:15 pm to saint tiger225
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That said, it's scary that these people want this dude in office for another 4 years.
I can’t stand Pedo Joe but in the democrats eyes all he has to do is not die. As long as he is the president (only in title because he is clueless) the puppeteers can continue running the country. I do not believe that any national election will ever be legitimate again. They showed their playbook in the 2020 election. I hope I’m wrong but what we witnessed in all the swing states by stopping the counting during the middle of the night. They figured out how many votes they needed to make up for Pedo Joe to win
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