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re: Morgan Stanley credits ‘Bidenomics’ in lifting its U.S. economic-growth outlook.

Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50637 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:22 pm to
Didn't we just have this thread yesterday?

quote:

projects 1.9% economic expansion in the first half of this year.


Those are terrible numbers. Calling this "good" because it's better than the even worse previous projection is misleading at best.
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57742 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

How dare you say something positive about how well the country is doing under Biden..


Literally nothing is going well
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17034 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

The US economy is doing very well and the stock market is booming.



These 2 are not the same which shows you are full of shite.
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2917 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Exactly. Biden is the best thing to ever happen to BigCorp, and a nightmare for mom n pop.

Covid started the ball rolling, but the current economic system leans technocrat.




Moving toward PPP (Public/Private Partnerships).
It is how the fascist government controls things by doing an end-around on the Constitution, using big business to regulate where the government legally cannot.
Then they point and say "but you Conservatives always say it's a private business, they can run it however they want".
All the while using behind the scenes leverage and threats to make these businesses do as the puppeteers see fit.
See Blackrock and Larry Fink's own words about how they are forcing businesses to conform to their agenda by withholding credit, and basing lending on ESG scores.

Big business and the globalist government types are already in bed together and it is getting worse by the day.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50637 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

I work at an investment firm.


Wow. Good thing you didn't mention them by name. Would be a terrible advertisement for them.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111576 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

US Real Average Hourly Earnings is at a current level of 11.05, up from 11.03 last month and up from 10.92 one year ago. This is a change of 0.18% from last month and 1.19% from one year ago.


Correct. This is still lower than February 2020.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:34 pm to
Firms are happy while he grinds the middle class to dust. Sounds about right.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17034 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Biden has positioned the US in a pretty good place.

The US economy is doing very well and the stock market is booming.

Anecdotally, my firm is pretty happy with Biden's leadership from what I can tell.

Ask the average person:

Would you rather buy a house now or in 2020? (I'll even let you buy at 3%)
Would you rather buy a car now or in 2020?
Would you rather buy food now or in 2020?

Also, the market had a enormous push because of AI. Before there were major concerns of a recession.
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111576 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Firms are happy while he grinds the middle class to dust. Sounds about right.


The stock market is disconnected from Main Street.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11750 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:53 pm to
All I can say is bullshite what industrial strength we not even a blip on the radar in industrial manufacturing
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51781 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

But regardless.. the sycophants that worship at the feet of Trump will never admit that..



You've created a binary choice of either "the economy is doing better thanks to Biden" or "you're just a bitter Trump supporter". Framing your argument like this exposes your stance as being every bit as ridiculously biased as those you attempt to denigrate.
Posted by Pizza Dan
Member since Apr 2023
296 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

is, "you just have to hope people around him are doing their jobs like they were hired to do."
.
If their job is to destroy the country they are doing it well.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18882 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Anecdotally, my firm is pretty happy with Biden's leadership from what I can tell.


glad things are going well at the dildo plant.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9239 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:49 pm to
Please, please...my Biden economy boner can only take so much
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34320 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

I’m sorry some of you hate the country


This is ironic coming from a goose-stepper like you.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99056 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:56 pm to
Keynsian economics works until the money spigot runs out, or hyperinflation.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34320 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Moving toward PPP (Public/Private Partnerships). It is how the fascist government controls things by doing an end-around on the Constitution, using big business to regulate where the government legally cannot. Then they point and say "but you Conservatives always say it's a private business, they can run it however they want". All the while using behind the scenes leverage and threats to make these businesses do as the puppeteers see fit. See Blackrock and Larry Fink's own words about how they are forcing businesses to conform to their agenda by withholding credit, and basing lending on ESG scores. Big business and the globalist government types are already in bed together and it is getting worse by the day.



Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18882 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:58 pm to
when you derail a train, it's only courteous to help with the cleanup a little
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18086 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Morgan Stanley probably in line for another bail-out like in 2008.


It was over $100B. Have they paid that back?
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

These 2 are not the same which shows you are full of shite.


Those two are very much the same thing.

You realize public equity is how companies raise capital to grow their businesses and grow the economy.

If the stock market is doing well, the economy is doing well because it means companies can raise money by issuing equity capital and fund expansion.

The economy does well when the stock market does well.
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 4:01 pm
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