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Gaslighting - Most vague phrase ever?

Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:22 am
Posted by skylane
Polebridge Montana
Member since Oct 2005
2529 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:22 am
Maybe this is for the OT, maybe not.... I still don't have confidence that I really know what this term actually means.

Here's my stab...
Gaslighting - Artificially inflating the importance of an issue
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:25 am to
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Maybe this is for the OT, maybe not


Have you tried googling it?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:25 am to
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Gaslighting - Most vague phrase ever?Maybe this is for the OT, maybe not.... I still don't have confidence that I really know what this term actually means.

Here's my stab... Gaslighting - Artificially inflating the importance of an issue
it is not remotely “vague.“ It has simply been misused so much, by so many people, that its meaning has become obscured.

you must be young. Run a Google search on “gaslight IMDb.“

it means “providing false information in order to cause another person to believe that they are going insane.“
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 7:26 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46710 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:31 am to
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Maybe this is for the OT, maybe not.... I still don't have confidence that I really know what this term actually means. Here's my stab... Gaslighting - Artificially inflating the importance of an issue


In the case of the current corporate news media, gaslighting is their coordinated efforts to mislead and deceive the American people with information that is either blatantly false, information that’s lacking full context, information that’s incomplete and more importantly, information that has a distinct and obvious political bias. This false or questionable information is run on a news cycle loop 24/7 until the people who are receptive to the gaslighting take the download.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263362 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:44 am to
The Fairy religion is a prime example of how the government and society manipulates human beings.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61512 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:45 am to
Gaslighting is when someone knows/observes the truth/reality and someone else purposely ignores that reality and tells you really there's a different reality.


Comes from a movie where a husband would slowly dim a stair gaslight each day, and then his wife would notice its dimmer making a comment to her husband to which he would feign ignorance even though he knew damn well it was dimmer. It was a psychological game ands she didn't question him because she trusted him. Even though she could observe with her own eyes the truth that the light had been dimmed, her husband still lied to her face about it.


Our news networks do the same to their constituents. They are granted a certain level of trust and will abuse it by lying and misrepresenting the truths even if those people can see the lie with their own eyes.




This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 7:46 am
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1280 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:46 am to
It’s a fine phrase that serves a purpose, but like a lot of therapy speak, dummies online throw it around all the time to where it’s essentially meaningless. I’m not saying your parents weren’t “toxic” or that your boss isn’t actually a “narcissist” or whatever, but you probably aren’t the person that should be making those calls
Posted by self_service
Member since Oct 2016
623 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:09 am to
Gaslighting - The COVID vaccines are safe and effective.
Posted by GloryToTheDawgs
US Army - Anywhere
Member since Jan 2023
1651 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:11 am to
It's basically people trying to manipulate others for their own gain. Nothing new. Everyone's been doing since the dawn of time. Is it worse now? No. Is it an overused term? Hell yeah it is.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68953 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:15 am to
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I still don't have confidence that I really know what this term actually means.


It's just brainwashing.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4367 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:25 am to
Watch the movie Gaslight.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12379 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:28 am to
My 16 year old son nailed how the term gaslighting is used today by saying “People use the term gaslighting to mean they disagree with what you are saying.”

Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
805 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:29 am to
It’s a good place as the evolution of the term has placed it in political discourse

As others have noted, the origin goes back to a 1938 play “Gas Light” ( and American movie of the same “”Gaslight”). It’s evolved considerable since then. The extreme use of trying to seek commitment has eroded LINK

Even the colloquial use defined by psychologists above has evolved. It became a popular term for psychological manipulation in couple relationship in the 2000s to where there was an identification with f five different types. See, eg LINK

In modern times, it tends to refer to most types of psychological manipulation. You will see heavy use of the term in political discourse and in media criticism. You will see it used a lot on discussion boards. For instance, I’m sure it would not be hard to identify a couple of posters active right now, who every time they get caught being wrong, they will claim “that’s what I always said” or “I posted that years ago”

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17172 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:40 am to
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I still don't have confidence that I really know what this term actually means

People lying
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8343 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:59 am to
a catchy phrase millenial women love to use when a guy isn't treating them like the yass queen they think they are
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:04 am to
gaslighting
['gas?lidiNG]
NOUN
the practice of psychologically manipulating someone into questioning their own sanity, memory, or powers of reasoning:
"he said he was the victim of gaslighting" · "gaslighting is an insidious technique of deception and psychological manipulation"
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
6001 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:03 am to
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Here's my stab...
Gaslighting - Artificially inflating the importance of an issue

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21962 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Here's my stab...
Gaslighting - Artificially inflating the importance of an issue


That's not it at all. The term has a very specific meaning. It means to pretend something that is happening, isn't actually happening. It's based off a movie where the husband turned down the gas lighting (among other things) then when his wife complained about it being dark he pretended the gas lights were perfectly bright and it was all in her head. He was trying to drive her insane.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4564 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Maybe this is for the OT, maybe not.... I still don't have confidence that I really know what this term actually means.

Here's my stab...
Gaslighting - Artificially inflating the importance of an issue


Just normal average folks using a word to sound semi intelligent for a couple of months.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
26114 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:47 pm to
One of the advantages of being old enough to know stuff from pre Al Gore’s inventing of the interwebs.
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