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re: Michael Rothschild says movies like Sound Of Freedom are the result of moral panic....

Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:23 pm to
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It appears most of the people hating on this movie are from one party.


Human trafficking has no political allegiance. Anyone who tries to make it partisan is suspect.

Why is it so important to you to attach partisan labels to human trafficking?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:17 am to
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Why is it so important to you to attach partisan labels to human trafficking?

So, the movie is about child trafficking. At no point does it mention liberals, democrats or political parties.

After it's released, leftist media immediately begins decrying it, labeling it 'Q- Anon adjacent' in numerous publications, radio and television shows. People on the right point this out and you reply with.
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Why is it so important to you to attach partisan labels to human trafficking?

Call your clients. Tell them their lawyer is a fricking bum.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:18 am to
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Human trafficking has no political allegiance.


The denial of it sure does.

I didn't think you were "denying" at one point, but I am positive you are now.




This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 10:19 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:30 am to
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If it raises awareness of child trafficking in general, who gives a shite what flavor of it is depicted in the movie?

Since you bumped this thread, I'll respond: because this sort of hyperbolic method to create a moral panic often does more harm than good. Leave the virtue signaling and "starting a conversation" to Leftists.

LINK

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The idea, in a nutshell, is to create a groundswell of concern by flooding social media with posts about human trafficking, joining parenting Facebook groups and glomming on to hashtag campaigns like #SaveTheChildren, which began as a legitimate fund-raising campaign for the Save the Children charity. Then followers can shift the conversation to baseless theories about who they believe is doing the trafficking: a cabal of nefarious elites that includes Tom Hanks, Oprah Winfrey and Pope Francis.

Part of the strategy’s perverse brilliance is that child sex trafficking is a real, horrible thing, and some politically connected people, including the financier Jeffrey Epstein, have been credibly accused of exploiting underage girls. And speaking out against child exploitation, no matter your politics, is far from an objectionable stance.

“It’s probably one of the key things that’s attractive about QAnon,” said Marc-André Argentino, a doctoral student at Concordia University who studies QAnon’s social media presence. “Everyone agrees that child trafficking is very bad, and the argument QAnon makes is, ‘If you’re against us talking about this, you’re in favor of child trafficking.’”


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The QAnon strategy of pushing some unobjectionable, often factual content about human trafficking in addition to wild conspiracy theories has blurred the lines between legitimate anti-trafficking activism and partisan conspiracy mongering. Recently, some activists have marched in cities around the country demanding an end to child exploitation. Among them were QAnon believers, toting signs with messages like “Hollywood Eats Babies.”

For established anti-trafficking groups, the surge of support from internet conspiracy theorists has been a mixed blessing. Some activists, such as Tim Ballard, the founder of the anti-trafficking group Operation Underground Railroad, see an opportunity to reach a new, hyper-engaged online audience.

“Some of these theories have allowed people to open their eyes,” Mr. Ballard said. “So now it’s our job to flood the space with real information so the facts can be shared.”

Others worry that QAnon will divert valuable resources from legitimate groups trying to stop trafficking. After the Wayfair incident, the Polaris Project, a nonprofit organization that runs the National Human Trafficking Hotline, issued a news release saying its hotline had been overwhelmed with false reports. It later published a blog post warning that “unsubstantiated claims and accusations about child sex trafficking can spin out of control and mislead well-meaning people into doing more harm than good.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:33 am to
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So, the movie is about child trafficking. At no point does it mention liberals, democrats or political parties.

But yet, one partisan group keeps posting about it and making threads and making it partisan.

From this thread:

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Groomers gonna groom.


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We America First patriots know what's going on but there


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all these pedos are so riled up


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How could anyone, regardless of their politics, denounce a movie raising awareness of child trafficking? I wouldn't wish that on the most liberal blue hair in the bowels of Portland.


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He can F**k himself and so can all the voters/supporters of the pedophile in chief.


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Michael Rothschild

Name checks out.


I knew someone would make the connection....


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But this ^^^^ is what we're fighting. The truth is the enemy of the Dim/Groomer/Transformer ideology, unfortunately these sick fricks control much of the messaging.


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They aren’t even trying to hide it anymore!


Those are from page 1 of this thread. Want me to do another sampling on the 2-3 threads made per day on here by Patriots? Want to wager how many partisan comments are made in response?

Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:41 am to
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When they discuss sex trafficking, how are the defining it?

Are these people that are being kidnapped off the street, or are these runaways, drug-addicts, that are being pimped out?

Both are bad, obviously, but different parts of the spectrum.


I'm not sure which group you are asking about. The movie deals with a specific situation of a rescue of children in Columbia.

Federal statistics would deal with both if there is a party profiting off a minor's illegal services (i.e. labor or sex acts). Most policy efforts would be directed at both. Policing would appear to be the same (although I'm open to discussing any differences). Prevention may be different.

Its the latter that appears to be causing the most ire. Measures that relate to immigration policy or proseuction policy tend to be, in the former case, heavily partisan influenced. The latter case seemed to be a partisan smokescreen. That is, those that may fear the impact of prevention policies on other policies, make tangential or ad hominem attacks on concerns or initiatives because they don't want it to impact a separate but related policy initiative.

Nevertheless, that is not universally true. We did have one thread where the whole basis of the latter attack was based on false parallels to half-century-old prosecutions or other items related to Satan.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:48 am to
It never fails!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:49 am to
Here, I'll post more for you without the "QAnon" prompting:

Are theaters trying to discourage the viewing of Sound of Freedom?

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I really don't understand why so many people are trying to suppress the viewing of this film.

Are there really that many pedo sympathizers in society?


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Hollywood sending its message it doesn't want its supply of kids to stop.


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And yet it still happened, no a/c during airing of movie. Pedos and trannies are the goal of the left.


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The number one reason for open borders is sex trafficking. Fact. The DC scum are making gazillions off the trade.


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Liberals support pedophilia. They always have.


Then Q gets referenced (by a Patriot) so it's not worthwhile after that (but you can look if you want)

Patriot Double down - Patel Patriot, Jim Caviezel speech & Sound of Freedom movie trailer (from 2021!)

Patriots, you say? Not partisan at all.

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Notes:
conservatives are the activists now. dems wont engage
in honest debate, only try to infiltrate and fear monger.



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Accepting the absurdities given to us by this admin and the media is even nuttier than anything Q said.


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Mouton - you don’t have to be a Satan worshiper to be an instrument for him. He is the ultimate deceiver and liar. He attacks the strongest Christians.

Regardless of what you think of Jim C., there are bigger things at play here.



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Why did Chrissy Teigen, Rainn Wilson, James Gunn, Patton Oswalt and many others all scrub their Twitter accounts after folks got screengrabs of their posts from a decade prior, joking about pedophilia, cannibalism, baby rape, etc?


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Human and child trafficking is real, is an epidemic and this movie will spread awareness and help lead to the saving of children from evil.

Also many of the other presentations are about the current clown world we find ourselves in, election theft and the fight against Marxism and the Great Reset which is definitely real.


etc etc
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:55 am to
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Policing would appear to be the same (although I'm open to discussing any differences)

With domestic/runaway teens, policing isn't the issue. The issue is doing what we can to fix what made them runaway in the first place.

Youths leaving home and finding few economic avenues other than prostitution is a meme as old as human society. History shows that you're going to have lots of problems stopping it in any effective amount by attacking the demand. You need to attack the supply.

Creating avenues for runaway teens before the streets would help. Permitting them to enter the white market work force would help. Funding DCFS/CPS agencies more to investigate abuse at home and increasing the level of foster care victims receive before they run away. Attacking the real problem (lower SES pathologies) would be the goal (but it's difficult).
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:58 am to
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Rothschild


I don't judge people based on their last names but that's the one I make an exception for.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:10 am to
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and the argument QAnon makes is, ‘If you’re against us talking about this, you’re in favor of child trafficking.’”
Q Anon isn't mentioned in the movie. The only people who keep screaming it from the rooftops are leftists. Why is that?
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create a moral panic
Wow, you even use their words. Sorry the anti-pedo movie upsets you, Jake.
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doing more harm than good.”
Yeah? Like how? Give me a specific example.

Again, the only people mentioning Q are liberals.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:15 am to
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But yet, one partisan group keeps posting about it and making threads and making it partisan.

Yeah. I know.



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From this thread:

Oh no, not the TD posters!

And of course, you neglect to mention that they're responding to the above. Maybe if the leftist media didn't spring immediately into action trying to discredit the film, people on this site wouldn't call them out.

Again, and again, if the film shines a light on the problem of child trafficking in general, what does it matter which variety if it is depicted? It's a true story, after all, remember?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:15 am to
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I think it’s rooted in the Talmud, the rules for how you interact with gentiles are much more permissive. We are, as the orthodox say, just cattle.


No doubt about it.

When Jesus Christ threatened the religious power structure of Jewish society (The Sanhedrin) the members of that power structure understood their days of absolute power and control over the Jewish people were over......we all know what happened.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:17 am to
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Wow, you even use their words. Sorry the anti-pedo movie upsets you, Jak


I've used "moral panic" to describe all things SRA-related since well before Q. You know this.

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Yeah? Like how? Give me a specific example.

The quotes literally do that. I posted the LINk, they go over other issues these "emotional frenzies" (like the wording better?) cause.

That article was written after the Wayfair stupidity. Do you want to wager the same population promoting that Wayfair stupidity is also the same one having a meltdown over being linked to Q? Or that the same population who promoted Wayfair and this movie also were big consumers of QAnon? Again, the creative forced behind this movie and hte leading star are even directly linked to all of this stuff. Don't try to play stupid and ignorant and pretend you don't understand how QAnon isn't associated with the same culture/population.
Posted by ELVIS U
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:21 am to
I love being lectured on morality by the illuminati.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
57746 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:36 am to
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they go over other issues these "emotional frenzies"
Oh, you mean like leftists screaming from the rooftops that it's all Q conspiracies and doing everything they can to discredit the movie?
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having a meltdown over being linked to Q?
The only people melting are the ones desperately trying to discredit the movie.
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Don't try to play stupid and ignorant and pretend you don't understand how QAnon isn't associated with the same culture/population
Again, not mentioned a single time in the movie. And it wouldn't have been mentioned at all if it wasn't for the leftist meltdown, and the frenzy to discredit the movie.

I'm old enough to remember when Epstein was a 'right wing conspiracy theory.' I wonder if you have posts dating to that time similarly trying to discredit people who talked about it.

You're a yucky fricking dude, Jake.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:37 am to
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The people saying this are pedophiles


no doubt
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:31 pm to
PedoJake is big mad people are seeing this movie and not buying his Qanaon distraction. PedoJake should take a step back and reevaluate his position but like most leftist, he lacks the humility to do so
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:33 pm to
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PedoJake is big mad people are seeing this movie

No, I'm not. I hope it makes $200M. I have posted many times I hope it does well. We need more lower budget movies being pushed and played in cinemas.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Oh, you mean like leftists screaming from the rooftops that it's all Q conspiracies and doing everything they can to discredit the movie?

No. I mean harming the subject the people enthralled with the emotional frenzies claim to support.

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I'm old enough to remember when Epstein was a 'right wing conspiracy theory.' I

LINK me.

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I wonder if you have posts dating to that time similarly trying to discredit people who talked about it.

Nope.

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You're a yucky fricking dude, Jake.

...oook.
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