What if Allen goes 8-9 this year?

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This is a year where 8-9 could be the division winner and host a playoff game...doubtful he gets the axe if that happens.

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That might give a false sense of security, while treading in mediocrity again.

8-9 with a sweep/1 loss division and a home playoff game = keep.

8-9 with a couple of division losses and no playoff = keep but send out feelers

7-10 or worse = gone. Won't happen but the sentiment remains.

I've always thought Allen could be a better head coach than his record reflected in Oakland. I liked the off season moves he made last year but believe that Allen was still coaching the team that Payton left a mess and deserved a pass in that first year. I think the staff has done a great job building on and changing from last year but unless the team is hamstrung with major injuries I do not see 8-9 as acceptable unless they are able to make a deep run in the playoffs despite the record. Allen would need to be replaced. This is his opportunity to put a good team on the field that does nothing but improve over the course of the year.

8-9 with a healthy roster, even if wins division, goodbye. Unless he wins a playoff game. At that point there’s at least a discussion.

8-9 should be an automatic fire I already don’t think DA and Carmichael are the answer so the faster we move on the better.

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What if Allen goes 8-9 this year?

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im still not sure if this FO is competent enough to replace him even if he goes 5-12

they seem to be as clueless as it comes to the product being put on the field or the changes that are needed to compete in the NFL

i veiw them as willfully ignorant by choice with no concerns beyond if ticket sales are good or not

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im still not sure if this FO is competent enough to replace him even if he goes 5-12

they seem to be as clueless as it comes to the product being put on the field or the changes that are needed to compete in the NFL

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Oh they're competent enough to fire him. I just don't know if the current regime should be the ones to make the next hire. Loomis is already on a short string with fans considering he did the safe thing and hired Allen because he wanted continuity. Look how that's turned out so far.

He went after a young offensive minded guy in Payton before but that was almost 20 years ago. I don't know if I have confidence in them to make the right hire or if they'd just go look for another Payton clone.

He is getting 3 years whether we like it or not.

What’s gonna suck is were gonna lose a damn good defensive coordinator in the process.

If he can’t win at least 10 games with this roster and soft schedule he needs to be shown the door