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re: Three Texas cops arrested and charged with murder
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:01 am to Dex Morgan
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:01 am to Dex Morgan
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Lmao. Bless your heart. I'm a conservative. You are not. A conservative believes in limited government. That includes agents of the government.
Ya know, 20 years ago, conservatives being knee jerk back the blue made sense. Hell, that was me. But then again, I also tended to back the FBI and our INTEL agencies.
But today, nearly all conservatives have correctly figured out the FBI, IRS, INTEL etc etc, while maybe full of many decent people........are shite agencies and that their agents should not be trusted.
Yet, somehow, the blue remains oddly exempt.
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:15 am to Dex Morgan
quote:No, you don't, which is unfortunate considering your assumptions to the contrary.
I know exactly how it went.
What you are describing was the predominate response to mentally disturbed folks who now fill out the ranks of our homeless.
It was not the m.o. for picking up violent folks involved in a cop pursuit.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:26 am to Dex Morgan
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We used to have mental asylums until Reagan and democrats shut them all down.
False. This happened under JFK in 1963. He had a vision of replacing the asylums you referenced to smaller community centers that were like halfway houses. This article details the big changes in mental health care.
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President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.
Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:35 am to BobABooey
As noted she was inside her house. One of the officers tried to break into her house by ripping out a window screen and trying to climb in through the window. The police escalated the situation and agitated her. I'm not sure how anyone can defend their actions.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:52 am to Dex Morgan
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We used to have mental asylums until Reagan and democrats shut them all down
Yes, because what was going on in those asylums was as criminal as anything Nazi Germany & Soviet Russia ever did. Maybe not Chi-Com acts, but very bad.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:58 am to Dex Morgan
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The mental institutions need to be brought back. I have a friend that works in the prison system in AZ She told me many of them belonged in mental institution. Not a prison.
I agree but it's a very difficult thing in practice. Forced commitment was abused widely and I don't know how to solve that. Lots of people were placed in mental institutions by family members trying to get hold of their money, etc.
Now we live in a world where believing you're a cat is considered perfectly sane while being conservative is a mental illness. Same thing for red flag laws - wanting to own a gun will quickly be deemed a mental illness and disqualify you from owning a gun. Do you really want to see the abuses that would come from this new paradigm?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 11:22 am to 2020_reVISION
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Should she have been shot? Maybe. [Maybe not].
Posted on 6/27/23 at 11:26 am to Dex Morgan
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So the next time a disgruntled girlfriend/wife throws a vase of flowers at her boyfriend/husband then he's justified in shooting her?
No, they should be charged with murder if there is evidence for it...like they were.
Then there will be a trial.
JFC
Posted on 6/27/23 at 11:44 am to Worthy Adversary
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Worthy Adversary
quote:signed up this month
Dude.
questionable motives
anti-American
you will excuse us while you keep banging away at your 1 week presence here. It will figure itself out; if you are still shilling this same schidt
Posted on 6/27/23 at 11:52 am to 94LSU
worked for a year or so in a mental institution between college disinvites/reapply. Worked with a range from educable to vegetable.
A large number of the patients were sent there to relieve what would have been a huge, undoable burden for the families
now these same people are the homeless, crackheads, meth heads, pro thieves, criminally insane, antifa, Dems, their election fraudsters, and violent offenders.
The "institution" level people contribute nothing good whatsoever to society, such that it is currently. Some way of re-instituting this option should be undertaken.
Experts and lawyers need to find a solution and return this option.
We do not need perfect but the problem can be solved.
A large number of the patients were sent there to relieve what would have been a huge, undoable burden for the families
now these same people are the homeless, crackheads, meth heads, pro thieves, criminally insane, antifa, Dems, their election fraudsters, and violent offenders.
The "institution" level people contribute nothing good whatsoever to society, such that it is currently. Some way of re-instituting this option should be undertaken.
Experts and lawyers need to find a solution and return this option.
We do not need perfect but the problem can be solved.
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:42 pm to Dex Morgan
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The mental institutions need to be brought back.
but they wont, because thats where democrats get most of their votes, the mentally handicapped just believe what the guy on the news tells them to believe
Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:52 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Yes, because what was going on in those asylums was as criminal as anything Nazi Germany & Soviet Russia ever did. Maybe not Chi-Com acts, but very bad.
If you had had to work in these places... dealing with severely disturbed, sometimes violent people, every single day, you would not be so quick to act like they were experimenting on all of them. Before drugs to treat psychosis you had to chain them down... The situation was imossible. Now they are on the streets not taking their meds and being a threat to us and themselves. All because liberals think it's proper to allow this insanity on the streets to flourish..
People like you have no idea what you are talking about...
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:18 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
quote:Everyone in here signed up at some time. So what?
signed up this month
quote:What does this even mean? I guess every new person has "questionable motives". Hell, I guess we all have "questionable motives".
questionable motives
quote:Based on what is this shite typed?
anti-American
quote:I'll likely post or respond on a shite ton of topics but I'm also sure this one will come up again. Hell, I've already posted in several threads. This just happens to be the subject that has caught on today. I'm sure it will be soemthing else soon enough. But to call it "shilling" is just fricking lazy.
you will excuse us while you keep banging away at your 1 week presence here. It will figure itself out; if you are still shilling this same schidt
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:20 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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Yes, because what was going on in those asylums was as criminal as anything Nazi Germany & Soviet Russia ever did. Maybe not Chi-Com acts, but very bad.
If you had had to work in these places... dealing with severely disturbed, sometimes violent people, every single day, you would not be so quick to act like they were experimenting on all of them
This whole asylum subject would be a great thread on its own.
Yes. The old ayslums seemed pretty fricking bad I suppose. But now, nearly every human who would have been in one is instead, homeless.
The question is, is that a step up? It's easy to say "asylum bad". But, I'm really not seeing how homeless = better.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:24 pm to Dex Morgan
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So the next time a disgruntled girlfriend/wife throws a vase of flowers at her boyfriend/husband then he's justified in shooting her?
That's your best retort? You should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:15 pm to Dex Morgan
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You're not a true conservative since you don't believe in limited government.
What conservative here, in this thread, said they don't believe in limited government?
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You think government agents should be able to use lethal force anytime they choose.
Please provide a quote to support that claim.
Do you have a degree in mind-reading, or have you just spent too much of your time on reddit & Twitter 1.0?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:19 pm to Dex Morgan
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All agreed these cops murdered this woman
Wrong
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:23 pm to Dex Morgan
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Yeah apparently some here would be cool with me taking out my Px4 and blowing my little cousin's head off if he throws his toys at me next time I visit.
Wow, I was aware of your mind-reading degree...
but apparently you're quite adept @ marketing as well. Because as far as advertising your stupity, you're killin' it.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:32 pm to Worthy Adversary
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She couldn't have posed less physical threat to them if she'd been in another state.
But she was in another state...another state of mind.
NKobody can know what that state mind can be, so you have to go by her actions, which were non-compliant, combative, escalating, & unpredictable. It's not only about the safety of the officers, but the safety of the general public. At that moment in time you have ZERO idea what that woman is capable of.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:34 pm to Jdillard343434
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Get a life you dumbass anti cop I support blue go blue take you're arse to a city that's blue and lawless he'll they should arrest you throw you in jail
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