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Three Texas cops arrested and charged with murder
Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:28 am
Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:28 am
I heard about this at dinner tonight with half a dozen friends. All conservatives and ranging in age from 27 to 76. All agreed these cops murdered this woman and that cops are not equipped to handle people experiencing mental episodes. That's not to say that some counselor should be sent to deal with them.
The older ones knew how these situations used to be handled. And they didn't result in anyone being killed. We used to have mental asylums until Reagan and democrats shut them all down. They had professionals that were equipped and would come out and handle the mentally disturbed.
The mental institutions need to be brought back. I have a friend that works in the prison system in AZ She told me many of them belonged in mental institution. Not a prison.
As far as these cops go, they deserve the harshest punishment. I'm not allowed to shoot someone for throwing things at me, so neither should they. They clearly violated department policy and overall seems like they just wanted to kill someone that night.
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The older ones knew how these situations used to be handled. And they didn't result in anyone being killed. We used to have mental asylums until Reagan and democrats shut them all down. They had professionals that were equipped and would come out and handle the mentally disturbed.
The mental institutions need to be brought back. I have a friend that works in the prison system in AZ She told me many of them belonged in mental institution. Not a prison.
As far as these cops go, they deserve the harshest punishment. I'm not allowed to shoot someone for throwing things at me, so neither should they. They clearly violated department policy and overall seems like they just wanted to kill someone that night.
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:17 am to Dex Morgan
quote:
...seems like they just wanted to kill someone that night
Yeah, I'm sure that's what they set out to do when they went to work that night. You're an idiot.
Should she have been shot? Maybe. Maybe not.
But it was her own actions that created the situation that lead to her demise. It's never a good idea to taunt & attack someone with a loaded weapon.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:38 am to 2020_reVISION
quote:
Should she have been shot? Maybe. Maybe not.
But it was her own actions that created the situation that lead to her demise. It's never a good idea to taunt & attack someone with a loaded weapon.
So the next time a disgruntled girlfriend/wife throws a vase of flowers at her boyfriend/husband then he's justified in shooting her?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:45 am to Dex Morgan
quote:
So the next time a disgruntled girlfriend/wife throws a vase of flowers at her boyfriend/husband then he's justified in shooting her?
Without knowing any more details, I would answer yes.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:58 am to Dex Morgan
I wonder if you asked the people who got the rocks thrown at their vehicles from atop a bridge if they think its fine to do so.
Oh wait they died. Point is throwing things has the potential to be deadly. Its not a low potential either. Im not saying its high but it definitely has a very real chance if injuring and maiming, and in some cases killing.
Oh wait they died. Point is throwing things has the potential to be deadly. Its not a low potential either. Im not saying its high but it definitely has a very real chance if injuring and maiming, and in some cases killing.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:10 am to vodkacop
I'm guessing you also think that New Mexico cop was justified in killing the homeowner when they barged into the wrong house. You didn't even respond to the part about how this used to be done non-violently quite regularly when we had mental asylums. The white coats were excellent at getting the straight jacket on and doping them up. You're not a true conservative since you don't believe in limited government. You think government agents should be able to use lethal force anytime they choose.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:57 am to Dex Morgan
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You didn't even respond to the part about how this used to be done non-violently quite regularly when we had mental asylums.
You state this as fact, but I have my doubts.
Several factors have changed.
Yes, there used to be more mental health institutions, both in-patient and out-patient. And commitments were easier to obtain. And also don’t forget that there were a lot of abuses in that system and many people were institutionalized that didn’t need to be.
Another difference is that cops were more likely to get physical and go “hands-on” with subjects, whether they were mental health cases or otherwise. They could beat your arse, or shoot your arse, with much less blow back. Because of this, people were WAY less likely to fight the police. Lots of people were beat up pretty good during an arrest, and lots of people were shot by the police with much less scrutiny. It’s was a time when shooting a fleeing felon was common.
The net result was probably less shootings of mental health cases, but I’m not really sure if that’s true. It would be an interesting thing to study the historical data.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 6:55 am to 2020_reVISION
quote:
Should she have been shot? Maybe. Maybe not.
Ok officer.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 6:58 am to Jimbeaux
quote:
They could beat your arse, or shoot your arse, with much less blow back. Because of this, people were WAY less likely to fight the police. Lots of people were beat up pretty good during an arrest, and lots of people were shot by the police with much less scrutiny
Ahh, the good ole days.
You miss the days when police could abuse citizens with less scrutiny
Posted on 6/27/23 at 6:58 am to Dex Morgan
quote:Dude. They're already accusing me of being you and now you come up in here throwing out cop threads right after I do.
Dex Morgan
Little help man!
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:02 am to Dex Morgan
I think the officers acted inappropriately and the use of deadly force was unjustified.
That said, the woman definitely contributed about as hard as she could to the situation getting out of hand.
I really do wonder when people are going to learn that if you frick around with cops, you just might find out.
That said, the woman definitely contributed about as hard as she could to the situation getting out of hand.
I really do wonder when people are going to learn that if you frick around with cops, you just might find out.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:03 am to novabill
quote:
Ahh, the good ole days.
You miss the days when police could abuse citizens with less scrutiny
What a shite take.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:04 am to Dex Morgan
You are allowed to shoot some one who is using items as weapons
Same for thes cops
And don't give me the mentally unstable shite, u didn't give a rick about it 10 years ago, but now you ran to pt to let everyone know u are for more mental hospitals.
Welcome to 20 years ago
Same for thes cops
And don't give me the mentally unstable shite, u didn't give a rick about it 10 years ago, but now you ran to pt to let everyone know u are for more mental hospitals.
Welcome to 20 years ago
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:04 am to Dex Morgan
Dear Lord. Now I read it.
1. 3 fully armed men with no warrant against a woman that ANY ONE OF THEM could have physically taken with little trouble
2. All 3 shoot her because........wait for it.......she had a hammer! I mean holy frick. What complete pussies. And remember, she has a hammer INSIDE HER HOUSE and they are outside!!!
This is why, if you have a relative with mental difficulties who needs help, please do NOT call the fricking cops. Because they've been trained "officer safety" is paramount which means your mentally ill relative is fricked.
1. 3 fully armed men with no warrant against a woman that ANY ONE OF THEM could have physically taken with little trouble
2. All 3 shoot her because........wait for it.......she had a hammer! I mean holy frick. What complete pussies. And remember, she has a hammer INSIDE HER HOUSE and they are outside!!!
This is why, if you have a relative with mental difficulties who needs help, please do NOT call the fricking cops. Because they've been trained "officer safety" is paramount which means your mentally ill relative is fricked.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:17 am to Dex Morgan
I can't even imagine being a man so fricking scared to do my job that it would even occur to me to shoot a 46 year old woman who has a hammer in her hand.
A fricking hammer!
The words "Officer Safety" have become an obscenity.
A fricking hammer!
The words "Officer Safety" have become an obscenity.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:22 am to 2020_reVISION
quote:It is unfair to say they "wanted" to kill someone.
Yeah, I'm sure that's what they set out to do when they went to work that night. You're an idiot.
What is not unfair is to say that their view of officer safety being paramount leads directly to this kind of disgusting result.
quote:3 Grown assed men show a 46 year old women who had a hammer.
Should she have been shot? Maybe. Maybe not.
I mean, come on. There ain't no "maybe" to it.
quote:Well it's also not so good to threaten a person with a loaded gun when they person presents no real threat to you.
But it was her own actions that created the situation that lead to her demise. It's never a good idea to taunt & attack someone with a loaded weapon.
And, ya know. 3 of the people present were supposed to have actual training!
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:23 am to vodkacop
quote:
Oh wait they died. Point is throwing things has the potential to be deadly. Its not a low potential either. Im not saying its high but it definitely has a very real chance if injuring and maiming, and in some cases killing.
My God.
I mean seriously. My God.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:25 am to GusAU
quote:
Without knowing any more details, I would answer yes
precisely
back when everyone carried a 6gun on their hip we had a much more polite society.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:25 am to SeeeeK
quote:
You are allowed to shoot some one who is using items as weapons
There are exactly zero regular people who could shoot a person WHO IS IN THEIR HOUSE holding a hammer while we were OUTSIDE the house.
Especially if WE are the reason for the contact in the 1st place.
Normal people would be in jail so damned fast our heads would spin.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:27 am to Dex Morgan
It is mind boggling to me that there are ANY rational humans who would defend the cops in this situation. Even the biggest back the blue types should look at this one and go, "whoa!!!"
But, here we are.
But, here we are.
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