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re: Okay, first I've heard of these accusations from RFK concerning the vaccine.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:10 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:10 am to cajunangelle
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They won't even allow RFKJr. a debate.
Trump doesn't want a debate either, FWIW. ETA: or shall i say, OnlyTrumpFans don't want Trump to debate.
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:11 am to GumboPot
And there is no way that trump didn’t know this.
And if he didn’t, he sucks even more.
And if he didn’t, he sucks even more.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:21 am to GumboPot
Operation Warp Speed?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:23 am to Deplorableinohio
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He’s a hard no for me on the environment and energy.
Makes sense, and I respect that position. It's how I think about Trump and his inability to hire anyone worth a shite, and his complete hoodwinking regarding the Vaxx stuff.
I voted Trump twice, and was happy to do so. He was excellent on foreign affairs and the economy. But now that we absolutely see the evil in every agency, I'm thinking Vivek/RFK. And I couldn't have believed I'd have said that two years ago.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:31 am to Aubie Spr96
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narcissist. Amazing.
I mean, you have to have some narcissistic tendencies to be president of the free world.
Biden may be a potato, but he’s also a handsy narcissistic potato.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:53 am to Toomer Deplorable
What are RFKJr's positions on energy and the environment?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:37 am to Toomer Deplorable
Ok, so wheres the NIH held patent for the vaccine?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:49 am to BozemanTiger
quote:I would submit more have killed themselves being reckless than the CIA did.
They've already killed most of his relatives.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:10 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Moderna has always been the "storefront" operations for the DoD & NIH.
Founded in 2010, Moderna didn't have a functional facility til July 2018, didn't go public until Dec 2018, in it's 9th year had $48M in revenue through '19, utilized DoD/NIH patents and survived off of US Govt grants and Wall Street funding.
DARPA Moderna
Founded in 2010, Moderna didn't have a functional facility til July 2018, didn't go public until Dec 2018, in it's 9th year had $48M in revenue through '19, utilized DoD/NIH patents and survived off of US Govt grants and Wall Street funding.
DARPA Moderna
Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:28 pm to Strannix
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But what blew the top off it all was when they went all in on everyone taking it, that was the dead giveaway.
Same here. None if it made sense. The virus had a 99.7% survival rate, was the first time vaccines protected public and not the vaccine recipient, first time a vaccine was better than natural immunity and it was being shoved down our throats 24/7.
That basically why I said, frick that. I didn't need scientific studies to tell me why I should take the vaccine. The people almost forcing it upon us were acting extremely abnormally.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:48 pm to PhtevenWithaV
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Ok, so wheres the NIH held patent for the vaccine?
The debate was centered around the use of NIH patented technologies to develop the vaccine.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:33 pm to GumboPot
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The virus had a 99.7% survival rate
Not true, and we still had hospital systems across the country being overwhelmed. The vaccines slowed/stopped that.
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the first time vaccines protected public and not the vaccine recipient
Not true - the vaccine protected (still protects) the recipient.
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first time a vaccine was better than natural immunity
Not true.
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it was being shoved down our throats 24/7
See above about hospital systems being overwhelmed. How many other times do you remember freezer trucks being needed because morgues were overflowing?
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I didn't need scientific studies to tell me why I should take the vaccine.
You would have been helped by attempting to understand them.
The problem seems to be that you don't live in the real world. Come back to it, and maybe things will make sense again.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:06 pm to GumboPot
The only thing that makes sense about them coming out with a 'vaccine' so quickly is that they already had it on the shelf.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:14 pm to BamaAtl
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The virus had a 99.7% survival rate
Not true
Outside of those already on death's doorstep (in hospice, very old/frail, etc) Covid had a mortality rate no worse than the flu. What made Covid nasty was its impact on the already very unwell.
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we still had hospital systems across the country being overwhelmed.
Over half of "Covid hospitalizations" recorded during the pandemic involved admittees that were either asymptomatic for Covid or suffering only mild Covid symptoms.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:35 pm to BamaAtl
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The virus had a 99.7% survival rate
Not true, and we still had hospital systems across the country being overwhelmed. The vaccines slowed/stopped that.
I was just going by memory with the 99.7% survival rate but I looked it up. The survival rates were even higher.
LINK
For example the oldest age group were dying near 1500 per 1 million people. That is (1 - 1500/1000000)100 = 98.85% survival rate at the peak. For young adults the survival rate was practically 100% and for me it was 99.99%.
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A noteworthy aspect of the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) pandemic is the disproportionate effect of the virus on people of different age groups. The elderly have a higher risk of mortality than working-age adults, and they also face a higher mortality risk than children (CDC, 2020). Figure 1 shows the monthly age-specific crude mortality rates (CMRs) by age group for the United States during 2020 and 2021. One can see that the mortality rates of children (0 to 17 years) and young adults (18 to 29 years) are essentially flat, with 1 death per million children and at most 14 deaths per million young adults. The mortality rate of intermediate adults (30 to 49 years) is somewhat higher, as is the mortality rate of older adults (50 to 64 years). However, the figure illustrates the striking disparity between the mortality rate of elderly adults (65 years or older) and the rest of the population, including children: The mortality rate of the elderly peaked at 1,577 deaths per million in January 2021. The mortality rate for the overall population is the population-weighted average of the rates across all five age groups.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:36 pm to GumboPot
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"It turns out that you know the vaccines were developed not by Moderna and Pfizer. They were developed by NIH, they own the patents, they owned 50% by NIH nor were they manufactured by Pfizer or by Moderna. They were manufactured by military contractors. And basically Pfizer and Moderna were paid to put their stamps on those vaccines as if they came from the pharmaceutical industry. But you know that's not what they were doing. They were coming from you know this was a military project from the beginning."
I'm not reading this thread so I'm sure its been asked...
But who was the Commander in Chief of the Military during this time?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:38 pm to Fun Bunch
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But who was the Commander in Chief of the Military during this time?
Donald.
BTW, I have already said several times I will vote for Ron if he wins the nomination.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:42 pm to David_DJS
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Outside of those already on death's doorstep (in hospice, very old/frail, etc) Covid had a mortality rate no worse than the flu. What made Covid nasty was its impact on the already very unwell.
Even with that exclusion (which we shouldn't do), it's not true. What made Covid-19 such a problem was the combination of asymptomatic transmission and the high number of severe complications - often respiratory - requiring hospitalization.
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Over half of "Covid hospitalizations" recorded during the pandemic involved admittees that were either asymptomatic for Covid or suffering only mild Covid symptoms.
Not true, unless you're making up a term to get around facts again.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:43 pm to GumboPot
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Donald.
BTW, I have already said several times I will vote for Ron if he wins the nomination.
How about switching to the blatantly better candidate that wasn't responsible for nonsense like this?
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:44 pm to Aubie Spr96
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The only thing that makes sense about them coming out with a 'vaccine' so quickly is that they already had it on the shelf.
Russia had their Covid vaccine even before Pfizer in the US, and I believe Britain had the Astra Zeneca vaccine shortly after Pfizer.
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