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Okay, first I've heard of these accusations from RFK concerning the vaccine.

Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118743 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:51 pm
This is pretty wild:

"It turns out that you know the vaccines were developed not by Moderna and Pfizer. They were developed by NIH, they own the patents, they owned 50% by NIH nor were they manufactured by Pfizer or by Moderna. They were manufactured by military contractors. And basically Pfizer and Moderna were paid to put their stamps on those vaccines as if they came from the pharmaceutical industry. But you know that's not what they were doing. They were coming from you know this was a military project from the beginning."



LINK
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81594 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:53 pm to
I fricking INSIST that everyone on here who thinks they're a Patriot and a Populist watch his entire interview with Rogan.

Keep an open mind - after multiple interviews Ive heard, Im convinced this guy would legit be better than Trump or DeSantis at fighting the deep state and the MIC.

I get that he's a traditional liberal, but I will proactively push back at yalls carping about his environmental record. He's old school on that as well. He's pro nuclear and is more of a "fight pollution in lakes and rivers" environmentalist, not a "we must all eat bugs and only veggies" whacko.
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:53 pm to
OPERATION WARP SPEED

Thanks, Trump!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64319 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:57 pm to
Good Lord help us if that's all true.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118743 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

I fricking INSIST that everyone on here who thinks they're a Patriot and a Populist watch his entire interview with Rogan.

Keep an open mind - after multiple interviews Ive heard, Im convinced this guy would legit be better than Trump or DeSantis at fighting the deep state and the MIC.



I thought about doing my part by buying Trump 2024 and RFK 2024 tee shirts. Cutting them both in half and sewing the halves together and making two tee shirts with the front Trump and the back RFK and vise versa.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11045 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:00 pm to
I'd like to see the full argument with sources and citations. It would come off as plausible to suggest paramilitary, like CIA, but to suggest military as in DoD - that would be a paradigm shifting circumstance and change the calculus quite a bit.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41101 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:02 pm to
I'm down with RFK jr or Vivek. Of course, the electorate is too stupid to nominate either of these guys. We will be stuck with potato and narcissist. Amazing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118743 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

I'd like to see the full argument with sources and citations.


Me too. I wonder if RFK can produce receipts?
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18180 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:05 pm to
Saw it right up front.
His overall message resonates with The People.
He is more like a traditional democrat which would be moderate to conservative in today's world.
Plenty of people get 100% turned off like single policy issues eg his vaccine position is against the ruling class.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3274 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:06 pm to
quote:


Keep an open mind - after multiple interviews Ive heard, Im convinced this guy would legit be better than Trump or DeSantis at fighting the deep state and the MIC.



Conservatives get pissed when we elect a "conservative" and they turn RINO, so our answer is to elect a Dem, and we have ZERO concern as to whether or not he would end up being prog because he happens to say some shiite about vaccines that we find palatable?

Newsflash...A dem is a prog. There are no "old school" dems
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
639 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

I'm down with RFK jr or Vivek. Of course, the electorate is too stupid to nominate either of these guys. We will be stuck with potato and narcissist. Amazing.


Not if the Potato is in prison and the narcissist splits the GOPe vote.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118743 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:13 pm to
Check out one of the reply tweets. It's about Pompeo saying "this is a live exercise" and Trump is whispering to his side, "you should have let us know".

LINK

Pompeo was the CIA director. Seems like they went rogue?
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64319 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:16 pm to
I think the CIA has been growing by leaps and bounds since Bush I and I think they think they can't be touched. They have been going solo for too long and the only answer they ever give is "national security".
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1443 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:25 pm to
I heard that back in 2021 when they were first deployed.

The government had a patent on the vaccine before the “leak” at Wuhan.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260225 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

I think the CIA has been growing by leaps and bounds since Bush I and I think they think they can't be touched.


Bin Laden is smiling on his cloud with those virgins.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17671 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I fricking INSIST that everyone on here who thinks they're a Patriot and a Populist watch his entire interview with Rogan.


Whatever his other faults, RFK Jr. is a damn sight better on opposing the biomedical Police State than Trump.

Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
2893 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:32 pm to
This dude is brave.

They've already killed most of his relatives.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:33 pm to
The funding was through ATI, a defense management contractor.

The Medical CBRN Defense Consortium (MCDC) oversaw the project.

I don’t have the actual factories used for the Covid 19 vaccines, but the above seems to support RFK Jr’s assertions.

LINK
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7721 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:34 pm to
How exactly does he know all this stuff no one else seems to know?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

but to suggest military as in DoD - that would be a paradigm shifting circumstance and change the calculus quite a bit.


There’s no paradigm shifting. The EUA under which the vaccines were authorized is a DOD countermeasures provision.
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