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re: Pros and Cons of Hawkins
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:41 pm to ghost2most
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:41 pm to ghost2most
Dude is elite next level shooter type.
His TEAM defense is very questionable. His on ball is mid but he plays hard.
But when you have a guy that can move around and shoot, and is an even deadlier spot up shooter, you got someone that can play for you for 15 years.
His TEAM defense is very questionable. His on ball is mid but he plays hard.
But when you have a guy that can move around and shoot, and is an even deadlier spot up shooter, you got someone that can play for you for 15 years.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:42 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:$20 mil plus assets, that's why.
Why not trade this pick for bogdonovic or hield instead of hoping this kid is those guys?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:42 pm to ghost2most
Pros- Great jump shooter in every facet. Spot up shooter, off movement, I feel like he does a great job in different scenarios. One of those guys that can get squared when he shouldn’t be able too, does a good job getting his shot off in a variety of situations. Not a guy that is going to create on his own but has shown flashes as a straight line driver off close outs. Really good in transition getting to his spot.
Cons- As good of a spot up guy as he is doesn’t have much of an off the dribble game. Below average finisher at the rim, doesn’t really self create, not a good cutter. Not a passer, really low ast%. Does a good job chasing guys defensively but doesnt really have a defendable position in the league. May struggle to stay in front of smaller guards and gets bullied by bigger wings. Not switchable. Doesn’t really have a projectable frame either. If he struggles to catch on in the league it will be because of the defense. Struggles off ball, from defending to boxing out to rebound.
Cons- As good of a spot up guy as he is doesn’t have much of an off the dribble game. Below average finisher at the rim, doesn’t really self create, not a good cutter. Not a passer, really low ast%. Does a good job chasing guys defensively but doesnt really have a defendable position in the league. May struggle to stay in front of smaller guards and gets bullied by bigger wings. Not switchable. Doesn’t really have a projectable frame either. If he struggles to catch on in the league it will be because of the defense. Struggles off ball, from defending to boxing out to rebound.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:43 pm to CP3forMVP
Damn we got devonte Graham
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:44 pm to Macintosh504
Graham wishes he shot like this dude.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:45 pm to Macintosh504
Dude, you need to just go to bed, or go be a Hawks fan or something since they took your guy.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:47 pm to Soggymoss
A Devonte Graham that can actually shoot isn't a bad thing to have.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:49 pm to Soggymoss
quote:nah just sick of the ineptitude of Griff and his lack of nuts
ude, you need to just go to bed, or go be a Hawks fan or something since they took your guy.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:51 pm to Macintosh504
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ineptitude of Griff
For the last two years everyone was calling for him to redo the coaching staff, he’s redone the staff. People called for medical team to be redone, he’s redone that. People called for more shooters, he gets shooters.
What the frick more do you want dude? We are literally putting together a team that PERFECTLY compliments our best player.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:52 pm to Macintosh504
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Damn we got devonte Graham
Other than Hawkins being more than half a foot taller and a better shooter, that’s a perfect comparison
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:53 pm to Soggymoss
It’s cool. Either way I eat crow and we play well or it goes as expected, guys get hurt, and we fall apart again. Griff will be fired after that.
Sadly we wasted an opportunity to get a franchise guard who wanted to be here. But at least the 2025-2026 drafts should be very good. Next years is arse unless some guys take a huge leap.
Sadly we wasted an opportunity to get a franchise guard who wanted to be here. But at least the 2025-2026 drafts should be very good. Next years is arse unless some guys take a huge leap.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:53 pm to Balsamic_duck
we got the best shooter in the draft. that’s never a bad thing. it’s definitely not when your the Pels who seem to have the least amount of shooter in the NBA yearly.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:53 pm to Macintosh504
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Damn we got devonte Graham
I'd rather have graham. He can at least pass the ball
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:56 pm to Macintosh504
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nah just sick of the ineptitude of Griff and his lack of nuts
This board is full of cucks. Griff is the biggest pussy GM in the league. Look at what boston has done. Turned Marcus smart into KP AND 2 1sts. You think griff would ever do something like that?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 9:58 pm to Balsamic_duck
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Turned Marcus smart into KP AND 2 1sts. You think griff would ever do something like that?
If he had Marcus Smart I'm sure he would have.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:00 pm to Balsamic_duck
I’d rather Smart than Porzkngis
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:00 pm to Soggymoss
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If he had Marcus Smart I'm sure he would have.
Smart just had one of the worst seasons of his career and Brad Stevens did that. I honestly think griff would have gotten KP and 2 1sts for BI or Zion. He is THAT bad of a GM
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:01 pm to ghost2most
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I’d rather Smart than Porzkngis
Then you didn't watch basketball last year
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:01 pm to ghost2most
quote:that’s wild
I’d rather Smart than Porzkngis
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:02 pm to Balsamic_duck
You need to chill. I would have rather taken Bufkin but melting like this over taking Hawkins is absurd. The guy will probably never be a star and may never be a high end starter, but he’s got a plus NBA tool and can play in the league. You need to save these melts for when we inevitably destroy our future on a dumb all-in move
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