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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:23 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:23 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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hey shut off the ship's internet to prevent us from tweeting."
Sounds like a reputable company.
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:24 am to sledgehammer
Im sure somebody will find something. With the amount of exposure it's gotten and the wealthy people involved, I'm sure somebody will find a piece of it eventually. Someone's going to try to make a documentary and shite like that.
If people were bonkers enough to invest in this damn tube to go look at a rusty shipwreck, they'll be bonkers enough to go looking for the sub in the off 0.000000000% chance that they can actually find anything.
If people were bonkers enough to invest in this damn tube to go look at a rusty shipwreck, they'll be bonkers enough to go looking for the sub in the off 0.000000000% chance that they can actually find anything.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:24 am to Bluefin
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I’m the kind of guy that doesn’t understand how cruise ships can float. Like that kind of science just annihilates my skull. I’m not smart.
Oddly enough, the fact that you are smart enough to know and admit you don't understand some things makes you smarter than a lot of other people.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:24 am to Captain Crackysack
If that sub had a pride flag on the side they would have already saved it
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:25 am to Indefatigable
I’m not a legal scholar but I would imagine that launching ROVs and searching aimlessly goes above and beyond your obligation to “render assistance” to a vessel in distress. Kind of hard to render assistance when no one even knows where the sub is
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:27 am to Indefatigable
If they were alive or even had a chance of being alive, DOC would likely try to recover now and simultaneously be trying to sort out the costs in the background with the various governments involved.
In this case, there's no chance they're alive and no chance they are recoverable, so they aren't likely to do much here IMO.
Eta: if someone had any suspicion at all the the sub was still in one piece I imagine DOC would at least try to recover it and sort out the billing later.
To caddys point, this would just be aimlessly launching shite in the hopes of finding a piece of it, which is extremely unlikely.
In this case, there's no chance they're alive and no chance they are recoverable, so they aren't likely to do much here IMO.
Eta: if someone had any suspicion at all the the sub was still in one piece I imagine DOC would at least try to recover it and sort out the billing later.
To caddys point, this would just be aimlessly launching shite in the hopes of finding a piece of it, which is extremely unlikely.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:28 am to chRxis
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Trieste, which was the first submersible to explore the Mariana Trench, cracked before they even reached the bottom... they decided to continue going, made it to the bottom, explored for a bit, then came back up...
I'd heard that before. I bet that was quite the conversation.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:29 am to sledgehammer
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If this submarine is gone and lost, do you think it’ll ever be found
frick no.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:30 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Discovery Channel producers are licking their lips at the years of exploration to locate the sub
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:32 am to sledgehammer
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If this submarine is gone and lost, do you think it’ll ever be found or even an effort to find it? There’s still huge aircraft carriers from WW2 that haven’t been found 75+ years later
At this point it's a matter of deciding what you want to find and putting in the resources to find it. They found JFK's PT-109, a small boat made mostly of plywood that had long since rotted away. All that was left was the engine and a few other metal parts. But they found it.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:33 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
It took them 70 years to find the actual Titanic wreckage. If this little submarine got violently compressed like everyone thinks it did, they're probably never finding parts from it.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Nah, that thing collapsed. Maryland picked it up.
Do you have a link to this?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:36 am to Lost Highway
LINK
Definitely crushing it…at the bottom of the sea. And admitting age and race discrimination in the process
Definitely crushing it…at the bottom of the sea. And admitting age and race discrimination in the process
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:36 am to bigpapamac
For mercy’s sake I hope they aren’t still alive this whole time. Just imagine the panic, and feeling of hopelessness stuck in a pitch black, cramped space like that
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:36 am to Ingeniero
The only chance is the end caps which I think probably survived the implosion in relatively unmangled condition. If they are resting on top of the seafloor they could probably be found with normal sounding equipment from the surface. That's assuming a lot of things, like the position was known when it went, the currents etc were known, somebody correctly recorded all that stuff...
It can be done if someone wants it to be done badly enough IE has and is willing to spend the money to make it happen.
It can be done if someone wants it to be done badly enough IE has and is willing to spend the money to make it happen.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:37 am to boxcarbarney
Thegasman posted it twice in this thread. It was the top of the page a few pages back, don't remember which one.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:39 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Deep tow sidescan or an SAS capable AUV could find the pieces within a matter of weeks if committed.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:41 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Copy from my previous post there Downshift:
LINK
I’m going to post this one more time. Here’s the data from a seismometer off the coast of St Johns Newfoundland for Sunday. Now you smooth brains may say “but wait gasman, this thing went down on Monday”. Easily explained by reporters bamboozling the time due to the sub diving in UTC time.
To copy my previous post on this:
To answer another question, yes there is a “tracking beacon” on board. More than likely the implosion was violent enough that the beacon didn’t make it. Pretty sure the motherships USBL has been trying to interrogate the beacon nonstop, with no reply. Even at those depths (depending on which sonardyne model they went with) they would be able to track the vehicle within 2-3m. Since they can’t, that also tells you it’s gone.
Source: a very good friend at Woods Hole and my own experience as a former submariner that still works in marine acoustics and have a few acquaintances tangentially involved in this “recovery” effort.
Navy/Coast Guard have to do their due diligence before releasing all of this, but that’s what happened.
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This is assuming that the vessel didnt implode.
LINK
I’m going to post this one more time. Here’s the data from a seismometer off the coast of St Johns Newfoundland for Sunday. Now you smooth brains may say “but wait gasman, this thing went down on Monday”. Easily explained by reporters bamboozling the time due to the sub diving in UTC time.
To copy my previous post on this:
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That’s the seismic record for the station during the day (Sunday). Notice it’s all quiet until a very large deflection of the sensor (deflected by movement of the physical sensor). These deflections are caused by pressure waves passing through. Note that if you look at the next day, it’s nothing but noise because the ocean is quiet again. From that record, you can see 2 deflections. The first small is probably the initial breach of the pressure hull, the larger deflection is probably the actual implosion.
To answer another question, yes there is a “tracking beacon” on board. More than likely the implosion was violent enough that the beacon didn’t make it. Pretty sure the motherships USBL has been trying to interrogate the beacon nonstop, with no reply. Even at those depths (depending on which sonardyne model they went with) they would be able to track the vehicle within 2-3m. Since they can’t, that also tells you it’s gone.
Source: a very good friend at Woods Hole and my own experience as a former submariner that still works in marine acoustics and have a few acquaintances tangentially involved in this “recovery” effort.
Navy/Coast Guard have to do their due diligence before releasing all of this, but that’s what happened.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:41 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Thegasman posted it twice in this thread. It was the top of the page a few pages back, don't remember which one.
I think you got autocorrected though. Your post said, "Maryland". I think it was Newfoundland...
You idiot. Ha.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:44 am
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