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re: Zelensky: Ukrainian loss could force US to choose between ‘collapse of NATO’ or war
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:28 pm to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:28 pm to Northwestern tiger
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collapse of NATO
Works for me. Those smug euros can handle their own defense.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:37 pm to Northwestern tiger
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“And they will start war with one of the NATO countries, and at this moment, the U.S. would have to choose the collapse of NATO or go to war.”
That would be a feature, not a bug. I can't think of a single reason for the US to be a NATO member. Russia is a major trade partner for nearly every member. Why would we need to protect them from their own trade partner?
We need to throw a large base or two in Poland and one or two other countries that actually appreciate it, and call it a day. Save trillions of dollars.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:39 pm to Northwestern tiger
False binary choice
There is a 3rd option
frick Ukraine and still support NATO
There is a 3rd option
frick Ukraine and still support NATO
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:41 pm to Northwestern tiger
If the EU did not care enough to make serious preparations for protecting their own backyard why am I suppose to care?
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:49 pm to Bass Tiger
Put me down for collapse
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:50 pm to Northwestern tiger
That little midget tyrant has Biden by his old saggy scrotum.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:02 pm to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:11 pm to Northwestern tiger
I'll take "Collapse of NATO" for five-hundred, Volodymyr!
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:19 pm to CoachDon
Americans today:
Ukraine fighting for its freedom from oppressive Russia is a good thing
The Southern States fighting for its freedom from an oppressive North, unacceptable.
Ukraine fighting for its freedom from oppressive Russia is a good thing
The Southern States fighting for its freedom from an oppressive North, unacceptable.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:21 pm to Northwestern tiger
Seems like a simple arse choice to me.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:23 pm to coldbeerfan
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And where the frick was NATO when we were getting shot at in Mogadishu. Piss on um.
What does that have to do with this situation? NATO's defense obligations only cover attacks on member states in Europe or North America.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:43 pm to Northwestern tiger
frick Zelensky and frick NATO
Posted on 6/16/23 at 5:51 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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Your view of good and evil is indeed skewed if you support the aggressor in an illegal war and it is a totalitarian state led by Putin mounting the aggression.
"Illegal" war? Define "legal" war.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:49 pm to CoachDon
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However, I will ask why you or anyone, based solely on your views as a human and not a US citizen, would think Ukraine should just give in and bend over to forced Russian aggression.
A better question might be....why do we insist on spending 100s of billions in Ukraine, far greater atrocities are happening all over the world and we dont do jack sht about it. The chinese have enslaved a million of their people, our meddling in Sudan/South Sudan thanks to George Clooney and boma has caused a disaster there, burma, yemen, yet nothing. For some odd reason we want to start a world war over a country with a gdp smaller than Texas and we wont lift a finger to stop the invasion in that state, why???
Edit: Sorry I just saw your next post, seems we are on the same page.
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:50 pm to FLTech
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He really should start turning to the nightclub owners for money. The nightclub and bar scenes are thriving in Ukraine
Why would he ask himself for money, 400 million in diesel kickbacks from Russia buys a lot of nightclubs, and that is just the diesel, now the weapons that is where he is making real money.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 6:59 pm to Indefatigable
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What does that have to do with this situation? NATO's defense obligations only cover attacks on member states in Europe or North America
It also states they will spend 2% of GDP on defense, where are they on that for the last several decades????????????
Thats what I thought, we should have bolted from that bullshite the first time a country short paid.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:01 pm to Northwestern tiger
Zelensky should be eliminated.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 7:04 pm to Northwestern tiger
Just tell me where the matches are, I'll go burn the building down
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