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How does road construction take so long
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:35 pm
Seriously. They’ve been working on the same intersection for 9 fricking months. And all I ever see is construction workers standing around talking.
Skyscrapers are built quicker than this shite.
Feels like a scam
Skyscrapers are built quicker than this shite.
Feels like a scam
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:35 pm to athenslife101
The lowest bidder wins the government contract to do the work.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:36 pm to athenslife101
Have you ever worked road construction? Do you have any inkling of understanding on what is involved other than just driving by & spectating?
Quit rubbernecking and keep your eyes on the road.
Quit rubbernecking and keep your eyes on the road.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:36 pm to athenslife101
All the bureaucracy and red tape. Sure some is needed but let's get real most is just there to pad wallets
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:36 pm to athenslife101
Dem baws waiting on 5 o’clock rush hour traffic to start working.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:37 pm to athenslife101
Public sector. They have no incentive to move quickly.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:37 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
But then they have to actually do the work. And if it’s not being done, the office of the inspector general needs to investigate
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:39 pm to boddagetta
I’m not rubbernecking. Every day I go through this instersection where traffic comes to a halt. Because they’ve blocked off 5 of the lanes in the inspection area and I have time to observe
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:40 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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The lowest bidder wins the government contract to do the work.
90% this.
10% it's actually a lot more time consuming and complicated than the average person realizes to build "relatively" long lasting roads that can handle massive amounts of traffic.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:42 pm to boddagetta
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Have you ever worked road construction? Do you have any inkling of understanding on what is involved other than just driving by & spectating?
Quit rubbernecking and keep your eyes on the road.
Translation: don't frick with our shite
South Carolina DOT has been working on I-85 for about a decade now. Should be done in time for repaving. Makes my trip from ATL to Charlotte pure fricking misery. But I guess it has gotten "better?"
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:42 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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The lowest bidder wins the government contract to do the work.
this ^^^^^^^
or a friend of a friend gets it.
if you want to stop the 6 years long road repairs overnight, you make the bid firm, with no cost over runs or changes made to increase costs and time.
you bid the job and you get "X" money, period, end of discussion, you get paid in quarters based on the amount of completed work, you complete the job by "X" date or you dont get paid anything more and the job goes to the next bidder.
you treat them exactly like you treat a contractor working on your property, you take away any incentive to extend the job since they will only lose money if they do that
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:43 pm to boddagetta
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Have you ever worked road construction? Do you have any inkling of understanding on what is involved other than just driving by & spectating? Quit rubbernecking and keep your eyes on the road.
No but I can read road construction proposals and projected completion dates.
They’ve been “working” on I-65 in Kentucky and Southern Indiana for years. It was supposed to be completed in 2020. They’re still working on it.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:43 pm to CatfishJohn
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complicated ... to build "relatively" long lasting roads that can handle massive amounts of traffic.
Is that why they get potholes after the first busy weekend?
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:44 pm to Crowknowsbest
Mostly private contractors doing the work. Lot of utility relocation and installation that takes up most of the time. Once everything is out of the way it/in place the actual road building can go somewhat quickly
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:44 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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The lowest bidder wins the government contract to do the work.
Then they make bank on "add ons"
About 15 years ago a contract was bid at 1M but when finished the contractor had been paid 30M.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:46 pm to jaytothen
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Is that why they get potholes after the first busy weekend?
First busy weekend post construction completion potholes are not normal
Might feel that way, but it's not the norm. And potholes aren't really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about is utilities/gas lines, the road staying graded over time, draining appropriately, not buckling under immense weight pressure/heat/cold, shoulders not falling into low ground, etc.
A lot of shite goes into it.
And yes some companies are absolute shite at the job, but that doesn't mean it isn't a tough job that can take a while.
ETA:
I did work with the industry for a consulting gig on a city planning project. I lived in the project management piece. A lot of third parties and it also doesn't help that they stop working after a little bit of rain, which is like 50% of the days in South LA in some seasons.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:47 pm to athenslife101
My brother lives a bit north of Atlanta. I visited for a week a few years back. When I got there, they had just finished tearing up a 2 mile stretch of the road that passed by the entrance to his neighborhood. He told me it took them about 3 days to remove it. They were expanding it from 2 lanes into 3 with a middle turn lane. In 7 days they had completely finished the entire project. Workers 3 laned 2 miles of somewhat busy road in less than 2 weeks. fricking insanity what goes on in this state. You see workers start a project. Then they simply abandon it for what feels like months. Then very slowly it eventually gets done over the course of 1 or 2 years.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:47 pm to BluegrassBelle
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They’ve been “working” on I-65 in Kentucky and Southern Indiana for years. It was supposed to be completed in 2020. They’re still working on it.
I can go you better in the state of KY. The "spaghetti" in Northern Kentucky was started in the 1970's (around the time of the supper club fire if memory serves) and they are still working on it.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:50 pm to athenslife101
12 engineers to 1 worker and the engineer is afraid of calluses.
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