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re: 3 years later, and it's still mind-boggling how many people refuse see it.

Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26940 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:39 am to
There was tons of frickery and fraud/legal issues in the 2020 election.

None of the things listed in the OP's screenshot indicate frickery or fraud in the 2020 election. Every single one of those things can easily be attributed to other factors.

Use actual evidence to claim fraud, not meaningless "benchmarks"
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:41 am to
It will be even easier to ballot harvest this time.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12836 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:41 am to
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Yet here we are, years later, and not a single court case won. Not a single whistle blower to be found. Assuming a conspiracy on this scale, there'd have to be ONE patriotic conspirator to leak something right?


What idiot is going to face the wrath of this corrupt government? All of the people involved benefited somehow from things like Zuckerbucks, so what benefit do they get telling on themselves or others? Is someone going to pay them more money to be a rat? Are all of our corrupt institutions going to suddenly stop being corrupt?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119242 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:41 am to
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Yet here we are, years later, and not a single court case won. Not a single whistle blower to be found. Assuming a conspiracy on this scale, there'd have to be ONE patriotic conspirator to leak something right?


Heck, the people get caught cheating on video and they receive a presidential metal from Biden.


This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22024 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:42 am to
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Hard to compare election numbers from such an outlier type of candidate to guys that have lived in the swamp their entire lives.


But that’s not the only evidence of fraud. You don’t even need the vote totals, because there’s plenty of other evidence.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23180 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:42 am to
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I think you need to re-read that tweet. Nothing lines up to say Biden actually won.


Nothing in that tweet means anything.

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That along with the statistical improbability of him jumping ahead of Trump in the middle of the night after all of the swing states paused counting.


Repeating this for 3 years doesn't make it true.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68443 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:45 am to
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Nah, they never left their subsidized housing project


Most didn't.

You seen 2000Mules? A few certainly left their house for a payday
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2823 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:48 am to
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Complete bullshite

What a well reasoned rebuttal.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2823 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:49 am to
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But that’s not the only evidence of fraud. You don’t even need the vote totals, because there’s plenty of other evidence.

Then use that evidence. Not some outlier statistics from the most outlier candidate in history.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22024 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:52 am to
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Then use that evidence. Not some outlier statistics from the most outlier candidate in history.


Statistical outliers are evidence, and they’re used for things like insider trading on a regular basis. I mean, it’s not technically impossible for Hillary to have become an instant expert on cattle futures, but reasonable people understand that’s not what happened.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20917 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:54 am to
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The difference is COVID voting. Anyone who denies that MIV was leveraged to deliver the election to the dems is hopelessly lost.



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Nobody had to come out to vote. They could sit on their fat asses and vote more than a month in advance. They got door knocks to force them to vote.



Exactly. The people alleging some kind of nefarious cloak-and-dagger conspiracy are absurd. It was as simple as legalized mail-in voting and ballot harvesting. Sure, there was some level of fraud just like in every election. You don't need some grand conspiracy when activists can simply knock on a door and take your vote right there. People voted in November of 2020 that have never and will never vote again unless these procedures continue. Radically change the procedure for voting and you should expect to find radical results that do not conform to historical trends.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46573 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:54 am to
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The difference is COVID voting. Anyone who denies that MIV was leveraged to deliver the election to the dems is hopelessly lost.


And this ^^^^ is why I keep telling conservatives on this forum R candidates will have a difficult time winning major elections now that mass mail in ballot harvesting is part of the new normal.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2823 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:56 am to
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Statistical outliers are evidence, and they’re used for things like insider trading on a regular basis. I mean, it’s not technically impossible for Hillary to have become an instant expert on cattle futures, but reasonable people understand that’s not what happened.


They are evidence when the status quo is maintained and stats lose the ability to be used as legit evidence the more status quo is turned on its head. It is like saying that the economy tanking the second half of Trumps term is his fault. Why not? The stats say so? Well it is because there was an outlier event that disturbed the status quo so the stats used as evidence that it is fault are now meaningless. You can't use those stats as evidence of it being Trump's fault because the unprecedented circumstances.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46573 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:56 am to
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Our DimProg board friends will tell you with a straight face that a huge chunk of that 81 million (alleged) people were motivated to come out in record numbers in order to vote AGAINST the bad orange guy.


It's not just Groomers who claim Biden was a vote against Trump, probably more never Trumpers believe this too, because some indeed voted Biden.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22024 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:02 am to
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They are evidence when the status quo is maintained


By this standard anybody can explain away any numerical anomalies in a presidential election. They’re all different, they’re all impacted by the current world situation which is unique at any given point.

People used that “well, it’s different because Trump” excuse for all sorts of BS during Trump’s tenure. It’s ok for the FBI to spy, because Trump. It’s ok for Big Tech to function as an arm of the government, because Trump. I didn’t buy it then, I don’t buy it now.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:11 am to
It's almost as if Trump is a uniquely bad candidate and drove millions of people to vote just against him.

But good luck nominating him again next year!
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8086 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:15 am to
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Las Vegas,


I was still living in Vegas for the 2020 election. My neighborhood had a community mail box cluster like the one below but with probably 75 + boxes. Laughable how many mail in ballots would just be laying around the area for "Not at this address". So easy to just pick up and fill out and mail back.


Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2823 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:16 am to
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By this standard anybody can explain away any numerical anomalies in a presidential election.


You do grasp that there are scales here? If a golf course says that their customers dropped by 25% because there were an extra 20 days of rain that year, that is flimsy evidence based on an outlier. If they say the same because they were hit by 2 hurricanes, that is an outlier that throws all of the statistics out the window. Trump was a hurricane that made us question almost all stats related to elections. Hell the freaking pollsters had to change up their entire process because of Trump. Polls don't work the way they used to because of him. How they hell do you not see that he was one of the biggest outliers in all of the outliers in political history and you can't use statistics as evidence with the same degree of certainty as you would use with any other politician that came before him?

And what is with the strawman about the FBI or Big Tech. This is about how election statistics are not the same when it comes to anything Trump related. You gonna now claim that I am excusing what the FBI and Big Tech did because I understand how massive outliers require us decrease our reliance on previously used statistical models? Give me a break. Later
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
3047 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:02 pm to
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81 million (alleged) people were motivated to come out in record numbers in order to vote AGAINST the bad orange guy.


2547 to 509 indicates otherwise, but Trump isn't electable.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147767 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:04 pm to


I hereby officially nominate you for a droppie TD award for poli post of the decade.
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