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Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:16 pm to Linoge
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current American society, culture, and politics.
Star wars is supposed to transport viewers to a galaxy far, far away.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:18 pm to Linoge
So the show about a lesbian archeologist is going to be political? No way!
I don't know if I can watch less than the zero minutes I had planned to watch this show, but I'll give it a shot.
I don't know if I can watch less than the zero minutes I had planned to watch this show, but I'll give it a shot.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:22 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:No it didn't.
Even a generally bad show like Book of Boba Fett produced some great episodes,
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:23 pm to THog
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Star wars is supposed to transport viewers to a galaxy far, far away.
People like the queer (her words, not mine) do live in a galaxy far, far, away....from the place called reality and logic where most people reside.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:23 pm to Linoge
The empire will be ruled by an evil orange being
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:25 pm to Linoge
Well I can't wait for the usuals to defend this.
Who is asking for this content? Why do some writers have a tendency to want to self insert themselves in the stories they tell? They can't just write a bad arse star wars series. They have to write a star wars series reflecting their own queerness.
Who is asking for this content? Why do some writers have a tendency to want to self insert themselves in the stories they tell? They can't just write a bad arse star wars series. They have to write a star wars series reflecting their own queerness.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:29 pm to JasonMason
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Who is asking for this content? Why do some writers have a tendency to want to self insert themselves in the stories they tell?
Nobody really is.
What you have here and in multiple other IPs nowadays is a writer that is so insecure and lacking in identity, that they have to use their "platform" to make themselves feel better. It's pretty much always at the expense of good storytelling.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:31 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Why do you do this? No one is paying you.
Star Wars has always had a focus on culture and politics.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:34 pm to CocomoLSU
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At this point they have to be doing this shite on purpose to see just how many SW fans they can piss off.
Star Wars “fans” are the softest, whiniest, most inconsolable fanbase on earth, and literally nothing would please them. No sane person would blame Disney for not catering to that group. They haven’t been watching anyway, right?
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:43 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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If you listen to George Lucas in interviews, Star Wars has always had a focus on culture and politics. Colonialization especially. So I didn't think outright saying that was really straying from the past at all.
I have argued for years one of the big problems with the prequels is Lucas trying to make a statement about contemporary politics. Art through out history has had social and political commentary, but it’s not easy. It takes skill to tell a coherent story with a message. The problem with this current moment of identity politics is this is literally the greatest time and best place (the US/West in general) in the history of the world to be black/female/gay/trans/queer or whatever identity they want to claim. Yet they all want to act like being queer in L.A. in 2023 is the same as being black in Mississippi in 1920 or a Jew in Poland in 1940. It’s all superficial, box checking, we have to have representation, that’s all they care about, they have No stories or creative content to offer, that’s why it’s all just taking existing IPs.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 5/11/23 at 12:47 pm to sorantable
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and literally nothing would please them.
Good movies that tell compelling stories would most definitely please them. Insulting them and beating them over the head with identity politics and ruining beloved characters to fit a certain radical narrative will not
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:14 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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If you listen to George Lucas in interviews, Star Wars has always had a focus on culture and politics.
Was he talking about the Trade Federation being the most obnoxiously transparent, borderline racist Asian stereotypes possible, or JarJar being the most obnoxiously transparent, borderline racist...
Well you get the point
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Insulting them and beating them over the head with identity politics and ruining beloved characters to fit a certain radical narrative will not
Dude, most of the people who care about this sort of thing will find it when it’s not even there. There’s absolutely no pleasing this group. Whiny neckbeards on YouTube have entire careers due to it.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:22 pm to sorantable
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Dude, most of the people who care about this sort of thing will find it when it’s not even there. There’s absolutely no pleasing this group. Whiny neckbeards on YouTube have entire careers due to it.
when it's not there you are so above the fray, aren't you? Do you read the interviews these people give?
you're a clown who simply doesn't want to admit you agree with them
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:26 pm to Linoge
quote:I stopped reading here
“When I was a young queer girl,
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:37 pm to sorantable
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Dude, most of the people who care about this sort of thing will find it when it’s not even there. There’s absolutely no pleasing this group. Whiny neckbeards on YouTube have entire careers due to it.
It’s so much easier to reduce every criticism to the least common denominator. However you may want to refer to the article linked in the OP where the show runner openly admits to her agenda.
Rouge One was probably the most well received Star Wars movie since the OT. The main protagonist is a woman, an Hispanic guy, 2 Asian dudes. Their force “mentor” is black. All the Imperials are white men. Did “they” complain? No, because it was a good story, they didn’t beat you over head the head with the identity of the main characters or shoe horn some identity politics that was irrelevant to the story and the bad guys weren’t bungling buffoons or Harvey Weinstein caricatures.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:39 pm to Linoge
“I told you so” just doesn’t quite say it.
Duck Fisney
Duck Fisney
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:55 pm to JasonMason
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Why do some writers have a tendency to want to self insert themselves in the stories they tell?
Because these people are incapable of creating anything. And if they ever do have an original thought, they create something that doesn't resonate with the general populace. So they have to insert themselves in established universes to tell stories that no one really wants.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:56 pm to Linoge
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When I was a young queer girl, I was just hanging out with Ursula the sea witch [from The Little Mermaid],” she told the outlet. “As a queer girl growing up, if you don’t identify with the heroes, and the villains show up and they’re all queer-coded, you’re like — yes, that’s me!”
This gave me intergalactic cancer
Kids don’t sit around and go “mommy why isn’t anyone queer like me in Star Wars ????”
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