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re: Arizona Coyotes new stadium vote
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:17 am to Cliff Booth
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:17 am to Cliff Booth
Now those are perfect Cliff. Way to carry the load.
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:26 am to thejudge
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Houston will gladly help the Coyotes move.
Move them to Salt Lake
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:27 am to nola tiger lsu
Houston Chupacabras
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:18 am to LSUTIGERS8181
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That being said does this guy really think they are going to bring in 3 MILLION people!?
He did not say over what time frame. Looking at last year attendance records, they managed to be last in the league with 4,600 people per game for a total of 188.6k people. In 16 years they may hit that 3M mark.
*Looks like the 2nd worse franchise still managed 640k people (~17k per game) last year
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:23 am to Weekend Warrior79
They averaged 4,600 because they’re temporarily playing in a smaller venue, to be fair.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:49 am to Rig
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They averaged 4,600 because they’re temporarily playing in a smaller venue, to be fair.
That makes sense, how long have they been playing there because it looks like they were also last in the league by a good margin during the 21-22 season.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:33 pm to Weekend Warrior79
They’re typically in the bottom 3 in league attendance. But it’s not a 10,000 seat deficit like this year’s attendance would imply.
The yotes could be successful in Phoenix. Their ownership has not pulled their weight over the last decade and they’ve botched drafts and traded young talent at an unprecedented rate for minimal returns.
The yotes could be successful in Phoenix. Their ownership has not pulled their weight over the last decade and they’ve botched drafts and traded young talent at an unprecedented rate for minimal returns.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:39 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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This guy....
These people who feel any of us care that they are too stupid to understand hockey...
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:39 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Best County in GA currently
Maybe 30 years ago.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:09 pm to Big4SALTbro
The irony if the original Winnipeg Jets move to Atlanta.
Atlanta Knights
Gwinnett.
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Georgia Coyotes
Atlanta Knights
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playing in Forsyth County.
Gwinnett.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:12 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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That being said does this guy really think they are going to bring in 3 MILLION people!?
The project is a $2.1 Billion development with two hotels, practice rink, concert hall, upscale shopping, restaurants, and several residential towers.
It’s adjacent to Tempe Town Lake which has had 2.4 Million visitors since opening in late 1999. It’s located directly between downtown Phoenix and ASU. There’s nothing implausible about that claim. He’s not specifically talking about the 17k seat arena.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:41 pm to AZBayouBengal07
Since the Winnipeg Jets have already been resurrected, perhaps they bring back the Nordiques or Whalers.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 3:42 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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It looks like this vote could be the end of the Coyotes in Arizona.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 5/10/23 at 4:25 pm to BranchDawg
The Thrashers jerseys were fire..
Posted on 5/10/23 at 4:27 pm to Big4SALTbro
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3rd time the charm and the team will be in the area of the metro that has the fan base with family and money to support it.
Exactly.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 4:51 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Houston should get a team and use the baby blue red and white.
Call the team the Oilmen and give a big F Off to the Adams.
That's not gonna happen in a league that already has the Edmonton Oilers...
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:20 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
I think it will pass. Even if it doesn't, I have heard Mereullo will just build on the Indian reservation. The owner and the league have no interest leaving. And Atlanta doesn't make sense anyway. The alignment gets jacked up unless there's another expansion team that enters the picture with them.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:06 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
The NHL Commissioner is all in on having a team in Arizona. Prying the team out would be very, very difficult. This vote would have to fail and literally every other plan would have to fail as well for it to happen.
Also… a new team for Quebec would be very low on his wish list. We might like the idea. He doesn’t.
The most likely candidates for expansion/relocation are Atlanta (I know, I know… but it’s actually #1 on the list), Houston, Kansas City, Portland, and Salt Lake City. They aren’t big on Canadian expansion, but if they go that route I see Hamilton and even a second Toronto team coming in before Quebec.
I would love to see Quebec get a team again. But even though they have an arena ready to go, the powers that be in the NHL don’t see them as a growth market. That’s the reason why they love Atlanta and Houston… all the people in Quebec are already hockey fans. The people in Atlanta and Houston are future hockey fans. And there’s a lot more of them than in Quebec.
Also… a new team for Quebec would be very low on his wish list. We might like the idea. He doesn’t.
The most likely candidates for expansion/relocation are Atlanta (I know, I know… but it’s actually #1 on the list), Houston, Kansas City, Portland, and Salt Lake City. They aren’t big on Canadian expansion, but if they go that route I see Hamilton and even a second Toronto team coming in before Quebec.
I would love to see Quebec get a team again. But even though they have an arena ready to go, the powers that be in the NHL don’t see them as a growth market. That’s the reason why they love Atlanta and Houston… all the people in Quebec are already hockey fans. The people in Atlanta and Houston are future hockey fans. And there’s a lot more of them than in Quebec.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:33 pm to SpqrTiger
Everything you said is spot on. As much as I would like to see Quebec City get an expansion team, they already support the league. Putting a new team there doesn't generate nearly the revenue that Houston and Atlanta will. 99% of nostalgic noobs with no business sense on YouTube and Twitter can't come to grips with this. Kraken ownership shelled out $650M for a team just a few years after the Golden Knights wrote a $500M check for expansion. I anticipate the next round of expansion will cost at least $800M. The only question is how soon does the league expand? 5 years? 10 years? And how much will it expand by? 2 teams? Or 4 teams?
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