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re: Woman murdered on hiking trail in Arizona UPDATE: suspect arrested - convicted felon

Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
71865 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:09 pm to
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What good does carrying do if you are ambushed from behind with no chance to react? Illusion of safety
I'd bet that in ten similar events where someone is carrying and someone isn't, the one carrying survives more often. Even if it's only 2 or 3 times, there's a difference.
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:12 pm to
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this location still looks to be remote

says the guy in Florida 2000 miles away
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
24433 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:13 pm to
A woman who jogs alone needs a big dog to go with her. A dog is a great deterrent.

I take railroad photos in shite areas - the main place I go in Shreveport has everything: bums, hookers, meth heads, drug dealers, etc. A friend goes to the same area, openly packing, but gets hassled.

My big Belgian Malinois kept all of the rabble away. I had a pistol in my camera bag, but the dog worked perfectly.
Posted by South21
Member since Jul 2019
1074 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:41 pm to
Its a shame women aren't safe in our country. Nothing will be done, people don't care.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
42553 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:43 pm to
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What possible reason could anyone have to just murder someone so beautiful?

I’d guess rape was a motive.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
52932 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:49 pm to
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People are spooked as this happened in a very low-crime area of Scottsdale/N. Phoenix, directly behind Mayo.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:56 pm to
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can understand that sentiment, but do you carry when you go for a family walk or bike ride in the neighborhood?


I didn't before, but I do nowadays. I didn't ask for things to be this way, but I can and will adapt to it. And no I don't carry for kids ball games, would probably cause problems


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this was on trails on a desert preserve in north phoenix/north scottsdale that are surrounding by houses, condos, soccer fields, the mayo clinic, the musical instrument museum, equestrian park, and desert ridge mall.


Yeah bud like I said, IMO people are still living in a fantasy land / burying their heads in the sand as to the reality of what's happening. You can say its an isolated incident all day but she's still dead at the end of the day and this stuff keeps happening. I understand things have changed quickly, but its spreading and good people need to adapt to it.


I'll go ahead and bet this guy when inevitably caught has a nice rap sheet and should have been in prison or an insane asylum.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:59 pm to
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A woman who jogs alone needs a big dog to go with her. A dog is a great deterrent.


Definitely helps
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
64410 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:52 pm to
I encourage my wife to run with our pit mix.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92882 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:05 pm to
THEY GOT HIM!!!! I’m watching them raid him now!
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9967 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:31 pm to
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Apparently not. This was the middle of the day on an Arizona hiking trail. What was this POS even doing out there?


Uhhh hunting white pypo
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
64410 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:34 pm to
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THEY GOT HIM!!!! I’m watching them raid him now!

Link?
Posted by Joe Davola
Phoenix
Member since Jan 2014
486 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:58 pm to
Where’d they snag him? I live by Desert Ridge so not far from this either.
Posted by AcadieAnne
Where I drink and know nothing.
Member since May 2019
1296 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:02 pm to
The Somalis seem to be handling the cold well enough.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92882 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:57 pm to
No link, I watched it live!
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92882 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:58 pm to
Townhomes at FLW and Scottsdale Rd
Posted by KurtSchrute
Member since Oct 2017
837 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:58 pm to


Posted by Jiggy Moondust
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2013
870 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:25 pm to
He lived in the Catherine at the corner of Scottsdale and Bell.

The trail is pretty busy and I ran on it often when I lived in the area. Very surprising. Would think there is more to the story than a random attack.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:29 pm to
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What a weird way to describe someone in plain daylight on a hiking trail.
Seems like they're trying to say the suspect is Bigfoot.
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