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Pitch clock has helped baseball tremendously
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:22 am
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:22 am
Caught most of the Dodgers-Cubs game yesterday. Game flows much more smoothly without all the down time between pitches. Much easier product to watch on tv. There were even a couple of stolen bases.
Still think the launch angle deal hurts the game as well and I don’t know a solution for it. There’s still too many strikeouts and not enough balls in play. Too many guys hitting .200 but hey they hit a home run now and then.
Still think the launch angle deal hurts the game as well and I don’t know a solution for it. There’s still too many strikeouts and not enough balls in play. Too many guys hitting .200 but hey they hit a home run now and then.
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:39 am to Allthatfades
My biggest gripe with MLB is the acceptance of striking out. It's the absolute worst thing you can do with your at bat.
I agree with your other points though. Just last year, you could run to the bathroom between pitches, get zipped up and back and not miss anyting.
Now, the game is moving along better. I love the stolen bases. I think, in time, we may see runs per game go up, a litle.
I agree with your other points though. Just last year, you could run to the bathroom between pitches, get zipped up and back and not miss anyting.
Now, the game is moving along better. I love the stolen bases. I think, in time, we may see runs per game go up, a litle.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:42 am to Allthatfades
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Still think the launch angle deal hurts the game as well and I don’t know a solution for it. There’s still too many strikeouts and not enough balls in play. Too many guys hitting .200 but hey they hit a home run now and then.
MLB defense has gotten too good and they make every play… it makes sense to try to get walks and home runs that don’t get affected by defense at all
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 6:43 am
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:44 am to wheelz007
I understand the push for HRs. Every time I watch a game the defense is stellar. Constantly robbing base hits.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:13 am to AtlantaLSUfan
If you want to see some bad defense, watch the Phillies
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:27 am to AtlantaLSUfan
I get it too. Without homeruns, what do you need? A single or a walk, a stolen base and another single. That's 3 good things.
Or - 3 singles... or an extra base hit and a single.
That's a lot. When instead you can lift one out of the park and it puts a run on the board.
Or - 3 singles... or an extra base hit and a single.
That's a lot. When instead you can lift one out of the park and it puts a run on the board.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:09 am to wheelz007
quote:It definitely makes the game less exciting but I also understand why baseball is moving to this boom or bust(HR or strikeout) type model.
My biggest gripe with MLB is the acceptance of striking out. It's the absolute worst thing you can do with your at bat.
Pitchers are just getting too good, defense is just getting too good. You can't just bang out 3 or 4 basehits in a game as often as in the past, so you have to take big chances.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:11 am to wheelz007
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It's the absolute worst thing you can do with your at bat.
In a vacuum with no one on, sure.
But you can also hit a week grounder that is turned for 2 and have a much worse outcome.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:17 am to wheelz007
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get it too. Without homeruns, what do you need? A single or a walk, a stolen base and another single. That's 3 good things. Or - 3 singles... or an extra base hit and a single. That's a lot. When instead you can lift one out of the park and it puts a run on the board.
Now try to do that when it seems like EVERY pitcher is throwing 95+ with a nasty slider/cutter.
Middle relievers now have stuff above average closers 15 years ago could only dream of. Starting pitchers don’t care about going the distance or even 7. If they get 5 innings at max effort the managers are happy.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:25 am to wheelz007
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I get it too. Without homeruns, what do you need? A single or a walk, a stolen base and another single. That's 3 good things.
Or - 3 singles... or an extra base hit and a single.
That's a lot. When instead you can lift one out of the park and it puts a run on the board.
Yeah but people aren't watching because 1 exciting thing every 45 minutes and a bunch of strikeouts is boring. The diehards trying to see what decisions the managers make in situations are basically SOL. But MLB basically made the manager a roll of a puppet when they went to the Universal DH. NL managers trying to decide what to do in the 2nd half of the game made the game fun to watch. Now I get to watch 20+ strikeouts a night and a bunch of fly ball outs.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:33 am to HottyToddy7
Russillo had Theo Epstein on his show recently and he talked about how last year the average time between balls in play was something like 4-5 minutes. Th ink about that. 4-5 minutes of only one person moving any appreciable amount
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:36 am to Allthatfades
quote:if this is what they want just televise slow pitch softball.
but hey they hit a home run now and then.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:11 am to Allthatfades
quote:
Still think the launch angle deal hurts the game as well and I don’t know a solution for it. There’s still too many strikeouts and not enough balls in play. Too many guys hitting .200 but hey they hit a home run now and then.
thats because you are dumb and have no clue what the frick "launch angle deak" is
do you understand every batter ball has a launch angle?
if i look at the stats and see that most balls hit with 90-98 exit velocity across the league (which happens to be what that players avg exit velo is) fall for a hit alot more often when its hit between 10-25 degrees....why the frick would you not encourage a player to hit in that launch angle?
why would you not encourage a player to hit at the best angle that provides the highest % of base htis for his particular average exit velo?
you realize players have more range today and a ground ball is almost always an out right?
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:18 am to lsu777
There was a poster on here a week or so ago that also thought “the launch angle BS” decreased offense across the league. As if 30 different front offices made up of folks with Ivy League degrees would all purposely do something to make their teams worse.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:18 am to Allthatfades
I’ve already watched more baseball this season than I did last season
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:26 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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There was a poster on here a week or so ago that also thought “the launch angle BS” decreased offense across the league. As if 30 different front offices made up of folks with Ivy League degrees would all purposely do something to make their teams worse.
Well not necessarily but "moneyball analytics" don't care about the micro. It is a macro method of baseball.
To get the ball elevated, you need to catch the ball out front of the plate. To do this you must "cheat" or make up your mind earlier. This leads to more swing and miss. Not to mention contracts are set up to be pro extra base hits and no negative towards striking out.
So in the macro I don't think the front offices are trying to make the offenses worse but in the micro it is very plausible that it is.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:32 am to HottyToddy7
It’s a 162 game season. Pro baseball is a macro game, period 
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:34 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It’s a 162 game season. Pro baseball is a macro game, period
What is your point?
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:44 am to HottyToddy7
Teams aren’t making a player development decision with some kid they drafted based on a situation you saw on a Tuesday night in April where you want him to move a runner over.
When players (and then teams) started optimizing launch angle offense increased by quite a bit across baseball. Pitching development responded and it has gone back down. It takes years for these trends to adjust
When players (and then teams) started optimizing launch angle offense increased by quite a bit across baseball. Pitching development responded and it has gone back down. It takes years for these trends to adjust
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