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Occidental Makes a Billion-Dollar Climate Moonshot—So It Can Keep Pumping Oil
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:37 am
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:37 am
Very long article. Tried to pair down with still key info.
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Point-source sequestration is on its way to Louisiana. Very curious to see if this air capture stuff can work efficiently and if projects like this will also find it way to Louisiana.
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About fifty miles southwest of Midland, Texas, deep in the oil-saturated Permian Basin, more than 100 workers are busy laying out roads and water lines, preparing to build an elaborate complex of fans, each as large as a tennis court.
When they start running in 2024, the fans will suck massive amounts of carbon dioxide out of the air. The carbon will be funneled thousands of feet down deep wells into geological formations, where it should remain for centuries.
The company behind this environmental moonshot is Occidental Petroleum Corp., one of the country’s most successful oil-and-gas producers. It hopes the enterprise will give it license to keep operating as a driller decades into the future.
It is spending more than $1 billion to build the first in a planned fleet of plants using direct-air capture to pull the CO2 out of the air, a budding technology with fuzzy economics. Bolstering the move are generous tax incentives included in the climate package President Biden signed into law last year that cover up to 45% of Occidental’s expected initial costs per metric ton.
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Chief Executive Vicki Hollub, who has the blessing of the company’s largest investor, Warren Buffett, said the plan will help it reach net-zero emissions on all its operations, its own energy use and its customers’ use of its products, by 2050, and allow it to keep investing in oil extraction.
Ms. Hollub told investors last year she also expects the clean-energy efforts to eventually become more lucrative than the company’s chemical segment, which manufactures basic chemicals and petroleum-derived products such as vinyls, and is the next-biggest revenue generator after oil and gas. OxyChem’s revenue was $6.7 billion in 2022, roughly 19% of Occidental’s revenue that year, according to the company.
Removing CO2 from the atmosphere at this scale has never been done before, and the enterprise comes with abundant commercial and scientific uncertainties. It is unclear what the appetite for carbon removal will be, how much the service will eventually cost or how massive volumes of buried carbon dioxide will affect the subsurface in the long term.
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Occidental plans to make money with the CO2 removal plant by selling carbon-dioxide removal credits to companies such as airlines, trucking and marine companies that can’t currently switch to clean energy without breaking their business models.
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Many industry experts doubt that direct-air capture can be done economically because the amounts of air that need to be scrubbed are so large. Operating the plants themselves will require massive amounts of energy, which will need to be emission-free to avoid defeating the purpose of the effort, they say.
Occidental executives said it would power the Permian plant with solar energy and additional renewable power from the grid, and it has also looked into potentially powering its plants with mini-nuclear reactors, according to people familiar with the matter.
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Some environmental groups say carbon capture will prolong the world’s dependence on fossil fuel and divert investments that could be poured into renewable energy.
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Ms. Hollub told The Wall Street Journal in August that Occidental’s efforts on carbon capture and on becoming a net-zero emitter would allow it to keep up its investments in oil and gas. She warned that underinvestment in fossil fuels, which she says will be needed for years even amid the broader transition to clean energy, will lead to a scarcity of supplies. In contrast, she said, other oil majors such as BP PLC and Shell PLC have shrunk their oil segment and invested in renewables.
Oil companies will have to find ways to remove as much carbon dioxide as they emit “if they want to be the last producer standing in the world,” Ms. Hollub said.
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Point-source sequestration is on its way to Louisiana. Very curious to see if this air capture stuff can work efficiently and if projects like this will also find it way to Louisiana.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:42 am to ragincajun03
quote:We love our corporate welfare, don't we folks?
It is spending more than $1 billion to build the first in a planned fleet of plants using direct-air capture to pull the CO2 out of the air, a budding technology with fuzzy economics. Bolstering the move are generous tax incentives included in the climate package President Biden signed into law last year that cover up to 45% of Occidental’s expected initial costs per metric ton.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:50 am to ragincajun03
“The carbon will be funneled thousands of feet down deep wells into geological formations”
Is this the same Occidental responsible for the Bayou Corn sinkhole mess? Then, this should be fun!
Is this the same Occidental responsible for the Bayou Corn sinkhole mess? Then, this should be fun!
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:50 am to ragincajun03
The entire concept is fricking insane and the logic so twisted and devious as to be hardly believable.
The idea that a respected company like Occidental (and Warren Buffett) would be involved is further proof that we are too far gone.
Carbon credits are a ridiculous product that is laughable with just the slightest scrutiny. Making an analogy to carbon credits with just about anything else in the world makes it even more of a joke.
"I'm going to be an a-hole. But if you are extra nice, I can pay you and get some nice credits and everything is good"
The idea that a respected company like Occidental (and Warren Buffett) would be involved is further proof that we are too far gone.
Carbon credits are a ridiculous product that is laughable with just the slightest scrutiny. Making an analogy to carbon credits with just about anything else in the world makes it even more of a joke.
"I'm going to be an a-hole. But if you are extra nice, I can pay you and get some nice credits and everything is good"
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:51 am to saint tiger225
Yes.
Especially when the “welfare” is helping industry pay for stupid arse government regulations/climate change initiatives
Especially when the “welfare” is helping industry pay for stupid arse government regulations/climate change initiatives
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:53 am to ragincajun03
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Very curious to see if this air capture stuff can work efficiently
How curious?
Because I can cure your curiosity right now. It won't work at all to capture carbon. But it will work perfectly as a corporate welfare government boondoggle.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:56 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Oxy is planning on building 30 of these plants worldwide.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:57 am to saint tiger225
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We love our corporate welfare, don't we folks?
I don't hate the tax credit system because it diverts money back into jobs and the community rather than the government where it gets stolen. To me, it's the least leaky bucket to move that money around.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:00 am to ragincajun03
This is a huge scam.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:00 am to ragincajun03
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the fans will suck massive amounts of carbon dioxide out of the air. The carbon will be funneled thousands of feet down deep wells into geological formations, where it should remain for centuries.
It's absolutely insane how these people have vilified something as benign as carbon dioxide. These are the same people who think men can be women. They are not grounded in reality.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:03 am to billjamin
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I don't hate the tax credit system
Read up on the IRA provisions. It’s ridiculous.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:06 am to LootieandtheBlowfish
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Read up on the IRA provisions. It’s ridiculous.
I have. Also, the guidance isn't out yet. All i'm saying is I prefer things that keep the government from getting more money they can steal. In a perfect word we wouldn't have to decide between those two evils, but it's where we are.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:06 am to ragincajun03
Carl Icahn tried to takeover Oxy because their female CEO makes decisions like this one.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:07 am to ragincajun03
These rich oil and gas fat cats with their f250s don’t care about us regular working people and how their fossil fuels hurt us and our environment
They’re putting carbon into the ground because they know it’ll become oil
They’re putting carbon into the ground because they know it’ll become oil
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:10 am to ragincajun03
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the fans will suck massive amounts of carbon dioxide out of the air. The carbon will be funneled thousands of feet down deep wells into geological formations, where it should remain for centuries.
Plants and trees sort of need carbon dioxide to live. They use that CO2 and repurpose it into O2 which animals need to live. Seems an important oversight.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 10:11 am
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:13 am to ragincajun03
Interesting...capturing carbon not to be used in EOR, but to sell carbon credits.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:18 am to ragincajun03
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Point-source sequestration is on its way to Louisiana. Very curious to see if this air capture stuff can work efficiently and if projects like this will also find it way to Louisiana.
It already has. We had a company pay $17 million in December to do this on our land.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:18 am to Richard Grayson
Let it happen. Bad decisions need to have bad outcomes.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:23 am to ragincajun03
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the fans will suck massive amounts of carbon dioxide out of the air.
Why plant trees when you can grift billions of tax dollars?
They are going to keep pushing us until we push back.
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