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So on the way to work today I had a revelation

Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:06 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1544 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:06 am
Most leftists I see discussing their positions, whether it be Joe Biden's political nominees, teachers at school board meetings, etc, tend to not want to discuss what their positions are. They tend to talk around the point without answering the question or just straight up refuse to answer. Also, how many times have we heard about teachers wanting to hide their indoctrination from parents? Or what about the selective editing of the Jan 6 videos?

Republicans, on the other hand, have to start on the defensive from the get-go. They have to cut through the liberal media bs and spin to get to what they actually said. Plus, don't forget about the constant racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, etc BS.

All that to say, leftists seem to want to hide their true positions/intentions, while republicans have to go out of their way to defeat the spin and let people know what their true positions/intentions are.

One side seems to want to hide what they believe, while the other truly wants others to know their true beliefs.

Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1544 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:14 am to
It's not so much that I realized they lie. I've just never realized that they like to claim how popular their policies/positions are, yet they go out of their way to hide what those policies/positions are.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39651 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:18 am to
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They know they are liars.

That’s not true. There are certainly cases in which some leftists intentionally lie, but that’s true of any group.

Take, as an example, the Hunter Biden laptop story. Certainly some political operatives on the left - high ranking officials in the CIA or FBI - lied, saying the laptop was a Russian plant. Then the MSM trumpets that everywhere. They are not lying. They believe it because it confirms what they want to believe.

It’s the same way this board runs wild everytime a study has a line in it that can be twisted to imply that vaccines are dangerous. The posters that do that aren’t lying; they are just a little delusional. So it is with the media.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42779 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:19 am to
Welcome to the party pal =

it has been the most obvious trait of left wing politics for well dove half a century.

Democrats never ever will define exactly what they mean about anything. They are not even very clear on what they are against = other than to say 'what that guy is doing is BAAAAADDD!'

Their only description is always = 'what he did' = that will be bad, regardless of whether or not yesterday they did the exact same thing.

This is why the language itself is their worst nightmare = which is why they have been trying to destroy it ever since the first inkling of "political correctness' raised its ugly head half a century ago.

Just look at the words you are no longer allowed to say - even pronouns themselves begin to be fighting words.. Words have meaning depending on who says them. You are not allowed to express approval for any concept until it has been cleared by the "Democrat Board of Correctness" which is never seen to be in session, but issues abrupt and final rulings on a moments notice, with no sense of continuity with past dictums.

The language itself is being destroyed = we are becoming warm blooded robots with only controls for nodding in agreement - or armed for violent protest, on instantaneous command from the DBoC.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42779 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:23 am to
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They know they are liars.

tru dat

it is wasteful to engage in a discussion with one of the cultists. They are waiting on the comet to come zip them all up to heaven.

We do have to try reaching the adolescents and young folks who have not been totally indoctrinated.

helluva prediciment.
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
5786 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:36 am to
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They are not lying. They believe it because it confirms what they want to believe.


Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24779 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:36 am to
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Democrats never ever will define exactly what they mean about anything.


And yet so many of them start out their policy statements with the words "To be perfectly clear..." or "Let me be clear...", or "I have always been clear on this..."
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10942 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:38 am to
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That’s not true.
yes they are and they don't care. FO apologist
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 6:39 am
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10942 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:40 am to
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Certainly some political operatives on the left - high ranking officials in the CIA or FBI - lied, saying the laptop was a Russian plant. Then the MSM trumpets that everywhere. They are not lying. They believe it because it confirms what they want to believe.
the willfully ignorant defense. Very bold cotton
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 6:41 am
Posted by tigerfaninhuskerland
Omaha
Member since Apr 2005
121 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:43 am to
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One side seems to want to hide what they believe, while the other truly wants others to know their true beliefs.


John 8:44 sums this up pretty well...prove me wrong.

44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24779 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:44 am to
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They are not lying. They believe it because it confirms what they want to believe.


Often, they do know they are lying, but they can't tell the truth because it is not palatable to most people. Most liberals won't say, "I'm a communist" or "I'm for open borders", or "I want to give all black people $500k". So they support the policies that lead in that direction.

Case in point: today, you have no problems finding liberals who will say that a person can be a man or a woman based on preference. Ten years ago, you would ha e been called a conspiracy theorist if you said that was going to be a litmus test for liberals...
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42779 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:50 am to
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statements with the words "To be perfectly clear..." or "Let me be clear...", or "I have always been clear on this..."

tru dat - when you hear any one of those kinds of intros, better be ready for an onslaught of bullshite
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:01 am to
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you have no problems finding liberals who will say that a person can be a man or a woman based on preference.


no problem?

zero instances in my liberal circle.

this reminds me of republicans pretending Obama was Kenyan.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10999 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:07 am to
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It's not so much that I realized they lie. I've just never realized that they like to claim how popular their policies/positions are,


They know if you repeat a lie often enough it will be accepted as truth even in the absence of facts or proof.

This is liberalism 101. This is why when the talking points come out from the DNC, every MSM media outlet regurgitates the same catch words and phrases. You've see the compilation videos of it. It almost seems robotic. They know what they are doing, and know that it will work largely because the population is stupid and brainwashed my 5 sec. media clips of hand picked information on a broad subject.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27196 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:12 am to
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zero instances in my liberal circle.


Then you are being obtuse or telling a lie... maybe both...
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6607 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:47 am to
They believe that they can hide from God.

They are not aware that they are fighting against God.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42779 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:16 am to
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republicans pretending Obama was Kenyan


are you dissing his heritage?? he is a Kenyan to the same extent that I am Scottish.

what you mean is whether or not he is a natural citizen of the USA, right?

The jury is still out on that one. There is a jillion times more evidence that the 'birth certificate' was a fake than that there ever was that Trump colluded with Russia - or any of the other bullshite your colleagues have been ventilating over for the past 7 years.

What does your 'liberal circle' say about any of their past delusions??

u no - things that really matter - like 'insurrections' - 'treason' - etc. Are they coming around to the truth on anything that matters???
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57379 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:20 am to
Obama: “Hope and change!”

Taxing authority asking an Obama supporter: “What does he hope to change?”

Obama supporter: “Why are you against change?”.

It was a brilliant slogan.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18002 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:36 am to
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Republicans, on the other hand, have to start on the defensive from the get-go.

They do this in practice, but it's a choice. They don't have to start on the defensive.

Yesterday when McCarthy was answering questions and was asked about the Tucker Carlson tapes, the first reporter asking something about TC lying about officer Sicknick. McCarthy didn't respond to that, but he could have - he could have asked the reporter what about the video TC showed was untrue? Fact is Sicknick wasn't killed by being beaten over the head with a fire extinguisher as YOU GUYS reported. Officer Sicknick died as the result of a stroke that the medical examiner did not tie to anything that happened on J6, and in fact died of natural causes. So it's not lying by TC that we need to be concerned about. When are you going to inform your viewers how Sicknick actually died?"

Republicans and the Right broadly are too intimidated by the media, and make a big mistake thinking playing nice will get them more favorable coverage. I hope that's a lesson Trump learned if he's our man in '24 - all his capitulation to the Left got him no favors in the press.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11272 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:41 am to
If they put the skull and cross bones label on the bottle you wouldn't drink it.

So they rebrand it to sound like something good and then refuse to discuss the ingredients.

IE: "Children's health care"
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