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re: What am I missing here regarding vaccines?
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:56 am to Crimson1st
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:56 am to Crimson1st
You sound like my family = My wife and I are in mid-80s now - both had severe co-morbidities when this thing first hit - diabetes, COPD, cancer treatments, etc. and so we looked at the vaccine as a necessary risk - not worried about what might happen 15 years from now - nor it interfering with our abilities to run marathons or climb mountains anymore.
BUT - I was against my pre-adolescent great-grandchildren taking the vaccine, even before the risks associated with it became quite obvious to anyone with a brain. Young kids were just not effected unless they had some severe co-morbidities such as obesity, etc.
AND - the wearing of the masks was always bullshite - I did wear then out of respect for others feelings - and in really close surroundings with strangers, like doctor offices, voting lines, etc.
NOW - I am thinking that the whole thing was unnecessary - that it was all engineered to have the exact effect it had ==== primarily to set up the necessary environment for electing a Democrat POTUS government.
BUT - I was against my pre-adolescent great-grandchildren taking the vaccine, even before the risks associated with it became quite obvious to anyone with a brain. Young kids were just not effected unless they had some severe co-morbidities such as obesity, etc.
AND - the wearing of the masks was always bullshite - I did wear then out of respect for others feelings - and in really close surroundings with strangers, like doctor offices, voting lines, etc.
NOW - I am thinking that the whole thing was unnecessary - that it was all engineered to have the exact effect it had ==== primarily to set up the necessary environment for electing a Democrat POTUS government.
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:19 am to RaginCajunz
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Liberals do not do logic.
They only do 'virtue' and it's amazing the bedfellows they are with to maintain that virtue. Islamists and Communists - both who will silence the bourgeoisie - the spoiled white middle class female college students, journalists, activists, influencers and antifa. All of these would be first on the list for camps or extermination.
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No amount of clear-cut logic will penetrate their religious beliefs. In this case Covidian religion.
Good point. For all of their crying over the religious, they have done the same, in the name of science.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:23 am to Crimson1st
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Yesterday he and I were diagnosed with Covid for the second time(first was almost a year ago on Feb 2022).
quote:Okay, here's some scientific truth to drop on your brother ...
So I called my extreme leftist brother to give him an overview of the situation. He listened then went into some non-coherent emotional outburst about the vaccines and digging into me for not taking them, blah blah.
You were naturally "vaxxed" in Feb 2022.
You've just been naturally boosted.
Your vax and boost are stronger antiCV19 protection than anything in his system (unless he's also recently contracted CV19)
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 7:28 am
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:02 am to NineLineBind
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You both did what you thought was right for yourselves also.
This.
frick a mandate.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:08 am to ChineseBandit58
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that it was all engineered to have the exact effect it had
Everyone remember Hong Kong? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:22 am to Flats
quote:the CDC literally changed the definition of vaccine when they realized this wasn't one
Only because we’ve dumbed down the definition of “worked”.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:24 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:it wasn't a gaffe it was a lie and he wasn't the only one saying it. You want to forget but we never will.
Nah. I agree that both public and private actors did a TERRIBLE job relaying the actual facts - most infamously summed up by the gaffe in Biden's "townhall" meeting when he declared if you got the shot, you couldn't get infected anymore.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:09 pm to Flats
quote:Well, I said a lot more than "nah", but you're right - it's actually complicated. The vaccine "worked" as an anti-viral to greatly mitigate severe effects (such as death) but did not "work" in terms of greatly preventing spread. And, as mentioned several times, the fancy/elite/left did an extremely poor job of providing that message - clearly, with a healthy dose of dishonesty driving a lot of the actors.
Yah. It's a simplistic apologetic answer that ignores the fact that this isn't an issue of "worked" vs "not worked". It didn't work well, it didn't work like they hoped it would. It provided more protection than a sugar cube, a lot less than a really effective vaccine that prevents illness and transmission.
But, again, it's good that the OP's elderly father took the first two doses. It gives him an increased chance of survival in case of future infections.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:17 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:"they lied"
And, as mentioned several times, the fancy/elite/left did an extremely poor job of providing that message - clearly, with a healthy dose of dishonesty driving a lot of the actors.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:53 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Not really.
and some of them hope to work while also functioning as an anti-viral (flu). Covid vaccines are like the latter.
Flu is a standard inactivated vax (except for the spray-form which is live-attenuated). Each year flu vax is premanufactured IAW expected prevalent strains in the upcoming season. Efficacy is fine as long as the strain(s) in the vax match endemic strains in a given year. If epidemiologists anticipate the year's strains effectively, the flu vax works well.
The 2023 CV19 vax generates a far less complete immunity than comparable standard vaccines. Since we don't have a LAV or inactivated CV19 vax to compare with, we can only surmise why this vax is increasingly "leaky." I've not seen efficacy of the December booster version. But I suspect it's going to fall far below that of original vax performance in 2021.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:57 pm to Crimson1st
1. It's not a vaccine.
2. See 1.
2. See 1.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 4:25 pm to Crimson1st
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I called my extreme leftist brother to give him an overview of the situation.
At this point…you have to understand that it’s not the vaccination. You two have a undeniable difference in opinions that cannot be resolved with facts.
You have to resign the notion that it will ever be resolved. My elderly parents both missed another Christmas gathering with their children/grandchildren (me and brother) because one of them (father, fully vaccinated and boosted) had covid during the holidays. This was the 2nd Christmas missed due to their Covid positive tests. The rest of us (unvaccinated) were fine.
My parents have not set foot in my house (4 unvaccinated..me, wife, 2 children ) since covid.
Their loss, not mine.
And yes, they both have TDS.
At this point, I don’t give a shite. They will die having missed the last 2 family gatherings with their family.
There is nothing you or I can do at this point.
Have peace with it. I have.
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