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re: Wade did something that is now legal thru NIL

Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:40 am to
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:40 am to
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in return got caught


He got “caught” doing something that no one is punishing him for….so what exactly are we talking about here.

All of you just don’t want to admit how bad LSU as an institution fricked up by firing Wade.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36793 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:40 am to
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But let’s say he donated the money to Gordon McKernan…..Gordon could get it done right. Which is essentially Wade paying players out of his pocket right?


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I mean the semantics with you


Read that to yourself with a straight face, motherfricker.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:42 am to
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I like Will Wade and wished he was still the coach but he also was an a hole in the athletic department and not many people liked him.


Now we are getting somewhere….Wade actually got fired because he wasn’t a “yes” man, wasn’t liked, and wasn’t Woodward’s guy.

So now you tell me is that a good reason to fire LSU’s best basketball coach in probably 2 decades to hire what we have now?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:44 am to
If you can’t understand it I don’t know what I can do to help you…..it’s not my job to enhance your education.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:51 am to
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Collectives set up by the school can though.


No, but collectives set up on behalf of the school can.
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
1999 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:58 am to
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It absolutely is semantics. At the root of Wade’s “issue” was the fact that players were getting paid. Are players not getting paid legally today to play collegiate basketball? The “who” of the paying doesn’t fricking matter because no matter who we’re told the “who” is we have know way of knowing where the money originated. That is fact. The fact that you are telling me other coaches aren’t paying players, even before NIL, shows me how naive you are. On the same FBI tapes that implicated Wade (on allegations that he won’t be punished for criminally or by the NCAA BTW) many other coaches were implicated. shite Pitino has been paying players financially and with other forms of payment for years. He’s just the tip of the iceberg.


Dude…I loved Will Wade. I would love to have him back….but you’re objectively wrong on this. It’s not semantics. Coaches cannot legally pay players. NIL deals can pay players. It matters where the money comes from. He’s on wiretap basically admitting to major NCAA violations and he left a paper trail. This is what separates him from other coaches. Of course they’re paying players. They’re just not making such an easy case against themselves.
Just because you don’t agree with the rules, doesn’t mean you can just ‘very blatantly’ ignore them. And the “who” does matter when a paper and audio trail is left and the governing body of the NCAA deems that it matters.
If Orgeron was heard on wiretap and there was a paper trail showing that he paid Burrow to come here….LSU would have to vacate a national title and Burrow would forfeit the Heisman trophy. That’s how much it matters….whether we like it or not.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31279 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:58 am to
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I mean the semantics with you Wade haters is amazing


The truth is semantics to you? What he did was not legal then or now. The fact that others get away with it doesn't change that. The fact that he has other means now to legally do it (possibly) doesn't mean he would have used that or that it was legal then.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
28084 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:58 am to
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This isn’t semantics and honestly it’s crazy you think other coaches are paying players.
Obviously coaches still can’t do what Wade did but they don’t have to find ways to funnel money to players since it can now be done legally under the farce that is NIL. I may be giving the op too much credit but I believe that is the point.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 6:59 am
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16538 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:01 am to
I think you may be missing a part of your brain.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 7:02 am
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:04 am to
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collectives set up on behalf of the school can.


More semantics…..LSU’s official socials and official website blew up with the news on LSU’s collective….almost as if they set it up.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:05 am to
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He’s on wiretap basically admitting to major NCAA violations and he left a paper trail. This is what separates him from other coaches.


No the only thing that separates him from other coaches on the wiretap is that he got fired they didn’t.

None including Wade will be punished by the NCAA or charged criminally.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36793 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:06 am to
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If you can’t understand it I don’t know what I can do to help you…..it’s not my job to enhance your education.


HE PAID PLAYERS FROM HIS OWN PERSONAL ACCOUNT. THAT WAS NOT LEGAL WHEN HE DID IT AND IS NOT LEGAL TODAY.



HE PAID HUSH MONEY TO A PLAYER'S GIRLFRIEND. THAT WAS NOT LEGAL WHEN HE DID IT AND IS NOT LEGAL TODAY.




Is that simple enough for you, idiot?
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2743 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:29 am to
You are not serious
Players under NIL get paid for their name and likeness

Coaches can’t pay players, players family members

There is a difference

Will Wade recruited well, most likely illegally and was not very smart or blatantly oblivious to the rules

Was fired, time to move on

Like cryimg for a year after your girlfriend caught you with a stripper and broke up with you, move on
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2743 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:40 am to
Wade has been punished, no income is pretty punishing
LSU’s basketball program has tanked and LSU has been punished

All created by a reckless coach

Again I will say, I liked what Will Wade started but also realize how he ended it

Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1940 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:49 am to
I hope to God none of you are reproducing. It is hilarious that you would teach your children if others are cheating you need to also. And I was a Wade supporter so you can stop with all of the Will Wade haters BS. Would love it if he was still here but he's not. But for the morons who hate MM because they don't think he can get dirty enough to win says all that is wrong with sports and people in general. I would rather lose than cheat and win. Period. Down vote all you want. And I will also give any coach 3 years to prove he can do the job. If not then you replace him. Most of this is just childish anger over Wade being fired. I was just as angry but I am also an adult and have moved on. You need to also.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56717 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:58 am to
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Am I missing anything ?
a rudimentary understanding of how the NIL works
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40257 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:16 am to
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Am I missing anything ?

Yes, three things.

1. What Wade did is still not "legal".
2. The legality at the time of the act is all that matters. A crime does not go away just because it is later legalized.
3. This isn't just about legalities; it's about NCAA rules. Technically, Wade did break laws (laws that are still in place) by evading taxation. But he was suspended for violating NCAA rules, not for breaking laws.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21187 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:26 am to
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Am I missing anything ?


It has not been proven that Wade did anything. Lets stop pretending the coaches have not paid players via proxies for decades. What am I missing? Geeze you people buy the NCAA bs hook line and sinker. If they had something real bad on Wade, it would not just be sitting open for years and they would not be prodding their allies in the press to write hit pieces on him. They wanted a fall guy for that mess. They wanted to say it was not all these coaches, look at this young guy cheating. Coach K is just having to keep up with the likes of cheaters like Wade, blah blah blah. Wade was the person but he chose not to participate. Every action after that taken by the NCAA strengthens the case that they have nothing more on Wade than some words.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:31 am to
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So now you tell me is that a good reason to fire LSU’s best basketball coach in probably 2 decades to hire what we have now?


No but that’s what happened and it wasn’t just Woodward that didn’t like Wade. He was not well like throughout the athletic department.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36793 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:34 am to
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It has not been proven that Wade did anything.


The NCAA needs ZERO proof that Wade did anything wrong to threaten and sanction LSU.
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