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Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:43 am to Tiger985
quote:But that is not what RDD said, is it?
This lame talking point that Trump is a loser might sound good in some consultants office.
RDD simply pointed out his own success and popularity. Trump is making a mistake attacking DeSantis before DeSantis declares.
Trump is making an even bigger mistake attacking first. He can be very nasty at times, but if it's in response to someone's own false accusation, there is an element of justification. TTBOMK, RDD hasn't attacked Trump.
OMB comes off as flailing at air, while RDD rope-a-dopes him.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:44 am to Landmass
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The only thing that Trump is accomplishing is taking the right and dividing them into 2 camps. One camp that will never support Trump and another that will never support DeSantis.
Go ahead and congratulate the next dem President because Trump is ensuring they get the advantage.
Pretty fair and accurate statement.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:45 am to deltaland
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Not gonna lie that response, at least what you quoted, is fairly weak
Those of you who don’t live here in the free state of Florida only get the MSM filtered version of DeSantis. He has consistently whipped the Left’s arse everywhere from Publix parking lot pressers to HS football fields on Friday nights. I have been and continue to be a Trump supporter but 45 should tread lightly because frankly, DeSantis’s record in office is more America First than Trump’s. Specifically his fiscal record and thwarting the advance of progressive indoctrination of our institutions and children.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:48 am to Giantkiller
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Trump is attacking Ron for a reason. There’s no bad blood. This is the politics business. What’s the angle? We’ll have to wait and see
Absolutely. Trump likes Desantis. But this is politics and it's a nasty business.
Desantis is being molded into Romney, McCain and Bush by an army of consultants sucking on his $100 million dollar war chest.
Just wait and see. You will not recognize the Desantis people fell in love with.
People are falling for it again. The same people that railed against the Republican nominees force fed to them.
All because they think they can "win".
Paul Ryan does not give a shite if Desantis loses in 2024. They are using him as a vessel to take down Trump.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:49 am to Landmass
You know that game where a player (or several) are talking crap the whole game (and after the game) to try to throw an opposing player off balance... Then the opposing player just points to score board because he has a lopsided victory.... That's what Ron just did there
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:52 am to Landmass
Trump insults Ron because his handlers (Karl Rove and the Paul Ryan/Murdoch crew) use people like Niki Halley to attack Trump. When Ron’s surrogates insult Trump expect Trump to hit back on Ron.
DeSantis needs to stop being a disingenuous pussy and stop hiding behind surrogates. Stop pretending like you are not running for president and declare already.
DeSantis needs to stop being a disingenuous pussy and stop hiding behind surrogates. Stop pretending like you are not running for president and declare already.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:55 am to Powerman
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Trump is attacking DeSantis because he fears him
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:55 am to Tiger985
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$100 million dollar war chest.
More like $200 million. Most of that are from like ~12 donors.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:58 am to Tesla
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DeSantis’s record in office is more America First than Trump’s. Specifically his fiscal record and thwarting the advance of progressive indoctrination of our institutions and children.
I hope so.
Go back at look at the Congressional record of DeSantis.
It ain't America First.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:59 am to Powerman
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:01 am to Riverside
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If Ron gets the nomination, and somehow beats Biden, his margin of victory would be very similar to Trump’s win over Hillary.
Electoral college wise? Probably. Ron would have a decent shot at winning the Popular Vote. Over 5 million people in 2016 and 2020 voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but didn’t vote for Trump. DeSantis would do much better with women and suburban voters as he doesn’t have the baggage Trump does and doesn’t alienate those voters.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:04 am to GumboPot
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Trump insults Ron because his handlers (Karl Rove and the Paul Ryan/Murdoch crew) use people like Niki Halley to attack Trump.
What is the evidence that Rove, Ryan, Murdoch and crew are controlling RDS?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:04 am to Tiger985
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This lame talking point that Trump is a loser might sound good in some consultants office.
He lost the 2020 election and is therefore a loser. Mitt Romney lost in 2012 and is therefore a loser.
People who don’t win are losers. This is kindergarten stuff and shouldn’t be that hard. Did you not play sports as a kid?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:04 am to GumboPot
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Trump insults Ron
Trump attacks because that's what animals do when they're scared and weak. His "attacks" have been pretty pathetic, too. More so when you consider he's had plenty of time because he's sitting on his fat arse in a hotel while DeSantis is running the freest state in the country.
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:04 am to Message Board User
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Message Board User
You really are dumb.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:04 am to Tandemjay
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Desantis is status quo, establishment backed and will maintain their policies of America last.
Trump literally backed Pence, McCarthy, McDaniel, and Lindsey Graham all within 1 week.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:07 am to GumboPot
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Ron’s surrogates
Reed Galen and Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project and Tom Nichols have been defending Trump against DeSantis on social media over the last few months and are cheering for DT to win the nomination.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:08 am to Tiger985
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Desantis is being molded into Romney, McCain and Bush by an army of consultants sucking on his $100 million dollar war chest.
He hasn't changed one bit and is still running Florida like he always has. But keep on spreading the BS thick, I know you Trump obsessed cultists would love for him to be like Jeb but if Trump thinks that he is going to get crushed by Ron. Unlike Trump, Ron has the political savy and ability to put a real coalition together that can win. You need the entire party to win, something you guys just don't understand.
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Paul Ryan does not give a shite if Desantis loses in 2024. They are using him as a vessel to take down Trump.
They don't need a vessel when Trump is busy taking himself down.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:08 am to RammerJammer91
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Electoral college wise? Probably. Ron would have a decent shot at winning the Popular Vote. Over 5 million people in 2016 and 2020 voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but didn’t vote for Trump. DeSantis would do much better with women and suburban voters as he doesn’t have the baggage Trump does and doesn’t alienate those voters.
You are assuming that Ron would carry the blue collar vote like Trump. These blue collar workers are not going to the polls for Ron. They just won’t show up. They are just not that politically engaged. It takes a personally like Trump to get them to the polls and vote. But you are right about the white woman suburban vote. Ron is more attractive to this demo especially in GA and AZ. For Trump to win he needs to maintain the blue collar vote and regain the white suburban woman vote.
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