- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Why are there so many more Indians in tech than Chinese?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:04 pm
Both cultures emphasize STEM education yet you barely see Chinese folks in American tech companies.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:05 pm to yaboidarrell
they're too busy messing around with your Coke.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:06 pm to yaboidarrell
Theres not. You just see more Indians or hear more Indians due to the CCP and their quasi closed society.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:06 pm to yaboidarrell
I'm not in STEM but my first thought was that China may have a more robust high end tech field and more political pressure to keep them at home.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:07 pm to yaboidarrell
Not a popular answer, but Indians are just inherently smarter in certain fields. They are amazing doctors too.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:08 pm to yaboidarrell
I think Indians may be more likely to get jobs in America in tech and medicine because they learn English in school. So they already are already fluent before they get to america.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:12 pm to yaboidarrell
There is a common misconception that Chinese people are super intelligent.
They are one of the dumbest races on the planet.
They are one of the dumbest races on the planet.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:13 pm to yaboidarrell
Indians speak English at a much higher rate.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:14 pm to yaboidarrell
just because they ain't STEMing in the US does not mean they ain't STEMing
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:17 pm to yaboidarrell
There are billions of both and they don’t send the dumbest over here.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:46 pm to yaboidarrell
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:55 pm to yaboidarrell
Which would you trust with detailed knowledge of company’s back office processes?
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:07 pm to yaboidarrell
Because a massive majority of Chinese individuals that speak English even remotely well are working in the Logistics sector. Trust me.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:07 pm to yaboidarrell
I work in tech as a software engineer, on the contrary there are many Chinese who work at FAANG’s, however you don’t hear it as much. It’s hard to find Tivoli Experts, SAP Professionals, SAS Programmers, Oracle Developers, Java/Web Developers, Cisco Network Engineers, .Net Developers, C/C++ Embedded Engineers, QA Testers, and other similar skills that are growing faster than the current supply can handle. Americans simply don't do these jobs. The aforementioned, I’ve specifically found that Chinese certainly represent those specific skill sets over East Indians.
Several years ago FAANG’s loved the $130K H1B salary amendment. Zoe Lofgren’s bill clearly states that they can add bonus and stock options to the base salary to meet the $130K requirement. Moreover, even if a tech firm is H1B dependent, and can meet the $130K requirement, they will file and get it easily. It was also a big reprieve to start-up companies who needed this kind of talent without the hassle of the H1B lottery.
What you’re seeing is the impact of H1B’s which is heavily dominated by East Indians IT consulting companies like Infosys, TCS, Wipro, ect, ect who send engineers to work at customer sites, in which they charge a client a set price, for example $100 to $180 per hour, which helps the client undercut an American job, and the consulting company pays 70% of the billed price to the H1B visa holder. In this model there is no way IT firms can pay $130K to a consulting employee, it’s simply not viable anymore.
There’s lots of Chinese in the Silicon Valley and Seattle who work in tech. I work with many Chinese who are very good at their jobs. For example, many Chinese gravitated to the Silicon Valley way before the East Indians arrived. Bill Shockley and the Fairchild team was probably what kick-started the Silicon Valley miracle. Certainly if there was no Fairchild, there would be no Intel, and the entire semiconductor ecosystem that puts the Santa Clara Valley on the map. No Fairchild also probably means there would be no Kleiner Perkins, the reknown SV VC, and that would mean no Netscape, and no internet boom in the 90s. If you walk into any STEM Masters program, you’ll see it is heavily dominated by Asians, as opposed to East Indians. Are East Indians present, sure, but not nearly as represented by Asians.
Several years ago FAANG’s loved the $130K H1B salary amendment. Zoe Lofgren’s bill clearly states that they can add bonus and stock options to the base salary to meet the $130K requirement. Moreover, even if a tech firm is H1B dependent, and can meet the $130K requirement, they will file and get it easily. It was also a big reprieve to start-up companies who needed this kind of talent without the hassle of the H1B lottery.
What you’re seeing is the impact of H1B’s which is heavily dominated by East Indians IT consulting companies like Infosys, TCS, Wipro, ect, ect who send engineers to work at customer sites, in which they charge a client a set price, for example $100 to $180 per hour, which helps the client undercut an American job, and the consulting company pays 70% of the billed price to the H1B visa holder. In this model there is no way IT firms can pay $130K to a consulting employee, it’s simply not viable anymore.
There’s lots of Chinese in the Silicon Valley and Seattle who work in tech. I work with many Chinese who are very good at their jobs. For example, many Chinese gravitated to the Silicon Valley way before the East Indians arrived. Bill Shockley and the Fairchild team was probably what kick-started the Silicon Valley miracle. Certainly if there was no Fairchild, there would be no Intel, and the entire semiconductor ecosystem that puts the Santa Clara Valley on the map. No Fairchild also probably means there would be no Kleiner Perkins, the reknown SV VC, and that would mean no Netscape, and no internet boom in the 90s. If you walk into any STEM Masters program, you’ll see it is heavily dominated by Asians, as opposed to East Indians. Are East Indians present, sure, but not nearly as represented by Asians.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:11 pm to yaboidarrell
You better believe that if the Indians (or anyone for that matter) do anything better than the Chinese, then the Chinese will reverse engineer it and do it at least as good.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:28 pm to yaboidarrell
Many more companies have operations in India than in China based on my experience. This naturally opens up more opportunities for Indians in US companies.
There are plenty of Chinese in tech and adjacent industries, I've just found that they tend to be in roles that interact less with others beyond their team. Indians have a more Western disposition to a large extent and are more relatable culturally, so that also opens up more visible roles.
This is all anecdotal of course.
There are plenty of Chinese in tech and adjacent industries, I've just found that they tend to be in roles that interact less with others beyond their team. Indians have a more Western disposition to a large extent and are more relatable culturally, so that also opens up more visible roles.
This is all anecdotal of course.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:09 pm to yaboidarrell
In my experience with tech companies …Indians are in support roles
Chinese are developers … Chinese will be sponsored for visa by company
Indians will not..
A side note.. India ..Indians are not considered a minority for things like kids applying to college .. I am talking about second third… etc generation us citizens.
Chinese are developers … Chinese will be sponsored for visa by company
Indians will not..
A side note.. India ..Indians are not considered a minority for things like kids applying to college .. I am talking about second third… etc generation us citizens.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:18 pm to yaboidarrell
quote:
Why are there so many more Indians in tech than Chinese?
How many more? Link to stats?
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News