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Why are there so many more Indians in tech than Chinese?

Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:04 pm
Both cultures emphasize STEM education yet you barely see Chinese folks in American tech companies.
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1440 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:05 pm to
they're too busy messing around with your Coke.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:05 pm to
Labor rate?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:06 pm to
Theres not. You just see more Indians or hear more Indians due to the CCP and their quasi closed society.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79526 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:06 pm to
I'm not in STEM but my first thought was that China may have a more robust high end tech field and more political pressure to keep them at home.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:07 pm to
Not a popular answer, but Indians are just inherently smarter in certain fields. They are amazing doctors too.

Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1439 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:08 pm to
I think Indians may be more likely to get jobs in America in tech and medicine because they learn English in school. So they already are already fluent before they get to america.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
76069 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:12 pm to
There is a common misconception that Chinese people are super intelligent.

They are one of the dumbest races on the planet.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5721 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:13 pm to
Indians speak English at a much higher rate.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:14 pm to
just because they ain't STEMing in the US does not mean they ain't STEMing
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:17 pm to
There are billions of both and they don’t send the dumbest over here.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:46 pm to
Bill Gates.

Twitter video
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25447 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:55 pm to
Which would you trust with detailed knowledge of company’s back office processes?
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
17007 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:07 pm to
Because a massive majority of Chinese individuals that speak English even remotely well are working in the Logistics sector. Trust me.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:07 pm to
I work in tech as a software engineer, on the contrary there are many Chinese who work at FAANG’s, however you don’t hear it as much. It’s hard to find Tivoli Experts, SAP Professionals, SAS Programmers, Oracle Developers, Java/Web Developers, Cisco Network Engineers, .Net Developers, C/C++ Embedded Engineers, QA Testers, and other similar skills that are growing faster than the current supply can handle. Americans simply don't do these jobs. The aforementioned, I’ve specifically found that Chinese certainly represent those specific skill sets over East Indians.

Several years ago FAANG’s loved the $130K H1B salary amendment. Zoe Lofgren’s bill clearly states that they can add bonus and stock options to the base salary to meet the $130K requirement. Moreover, even if a tech firm is H1B dependent, and can meet the $130K requirement, they will file and get it easily. It was also a big reprieve to start-up companies who needed this kind of talent without the hassle of the H1B lottery.

What you’re seeing is the impact of H1B’s which is heavily dominated by East Indians IT consulting companies like Infosys, TCS, Wipro, ect, ect who send engineers to work at customer sites, in which they charge a client a set price, for example $100 to $180 per hour, which helps the client undercut an American job, and the consulting company pays 70% of the billed price to the H1B visa holder. In this model there is no way IT firms can pay $130K to a consulting employee, it’s simply not viable anymore.

There’s lots of Chinese in the Silicon Valley and Seattle who work in tech. I work with many Chinese who are very good at their jobs. For example, many Chinese gravitated to the Silicon Valley way before the East Indians arrived. Bill Shockley and the Fairchild team was probably what kick-started the Silicon Valley miracle. Certainly if there was no Fairchild, there would be no Intel, and the entire semiconductor ecosystem that puts the Santa Clara Valley on the map. No Fairchild also probably means there would be no Kleiner Perkins, the reknown SV VC, and that would mean no Netscape, and no internet boom in the 90s. If you walk into any STEM Masters program, you’ll see it is heavily dominated by Asians, as opposed to East Indians. Are East Indians present, sure, but not nearly as represented by Asians.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12680 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:11 pm to
You better believe that if the Indians (or anyone for that matter) do anything better than the Chinese, then the Chinese will reverse engineer it and do it at least as good.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63575 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:28 pm to
Many more companies have operations in India than in China based on my experience. This naturally opens up more opportunities for Indians in US companies.

There are plenty of Chinese in tech and adjacent industries, I've just found that they tend to be in roles that interact less with others beyond their team. Indians have a more Western disposition to a large extent and are more relatable culturally, so that also opens up more visible roles.

This is all anecdotal of course.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
11421 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:49 pm to
Just dots on a map.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2634 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:09 pm to
In my experience with tech companies …Indians are in support roles
Chinese are developers … Chinese will be sponsored for visa by company

Indians will not..

A side note.. India ..Indians are not considered a minority for things like kids applying to college .. I am talking about second third… etc generation us citizens.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Why are there so many more Indians in tech than Chinese?


How many more? Link to stats?
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