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re: The world’s capacity to manufacture batteries by country

Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:30 am to
Posted by TexasTiger1984
Houston
Member since Sep 2009
1375 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:30 am to
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Not really considering that a decent portion of the battery materials can be recycled and reused


This is not true for lithium or cobalt to the extent that they can be reused but they don't maintain their efficiency
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:34 am
Posted by Papoo63
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2022
181 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:56 am to
Now do research on how dangerous old Solar Panels and Windmills are to the environment...Dirty Green Energy...
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11868 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:11 am to
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Not really considering that a decent portion of the battery materials can be recycled and reused


True.


Want to know something else that is true? Very little of the metals used in Lithium batteries are recycled due to cost. We simply don’t have a cost effective solution yet.

So, in theory, much of the batteries can be recycled. In practice, very, very little is actually recycled.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3296 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:15 am to
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Chinas dominance is supported by its ability to ignore environmental laws that handcuff western nations.


Fixed it.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17537 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:17 am to
Do not care. Let China run their industry on batteries.


Ps. Check and see how much coal they burn,too. Thanks.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:18 am
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:20 am to
Everyone always wonders how Al Gore came up with climate change…….it’s always been China. US will always be an economical, industrial and military power while O&G is king. China knew this 3 decades ago. America is being killed slowly by ITS OWN.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7489 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:26 am to
Joe Rogan with Siddharth Kara is a must listen to get an inside take on what is really happening to make this "Green" transition possible.

Zero regards for human life.

quote:

Siddharth Kara is an author and expert on modern-day slavery, human trafficking, and child labor. Look for his new book, "Cobalt Red: How the Blood of the Congo Powers Our Lives," on January 31, 2023. https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/research/beacons-of-excellence/rights-lab/our-team/siddharth-kara/index.aspx


Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15346 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:27 am to
When they invade Taiwan, who will want their crappy batteries? For you entrepreneurs, get busy.
Posted by bengalbait
Grove Lounge
Member since Sep 2009
4489 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:38 am to
Prager University did a great short video titled Unobtanium. It explains how we are nowhere near getting rid of fossil fuels.
Unobtanium
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14198 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:42 am to
So, once again, the Dems are trying to put us at the mercy of the Chinese. If we switch to electric, they could shut off battery supplies at any time and grind our economy to a complete halt.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:53 am
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79516 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:13 am to
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Hummm? That explains the push to EVs. Got to keep those battery plants running. That explains Joe and Hunter Biden's association with the ChiComs. Joe Biden's marching orders from his boss Xi Jinping? Destroy the U.S. Oil & Gas and the internal combustion auto industries. Make the Americans buy those expensive, inefficient EVs.

But before you do that, drain the SOR and ship the oil and our natural gas to China.

Then when the Republicans try to probe this Top Secret Document and O&G shipments to China debacle shut down their questions by telling them - can't respond because of an ongoing DOJ Investigation. Stall, stonewall, lie, and shield the 'Big Guy'.

A treacherous, treasonous, backstabbing bunch of these Biden people.



I wish more people were as bright as you. Sadly, we're a pretty dumb people overall.
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3894 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:17 am to
Well this explains why Biden and the libs are so hard up on switching to electric now. They are so in bed with china and don’t want to upset them in any way.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30658 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:25 am to
Battery and semiconductor production being so consolidated to China is a massive national risk to our security and our economy
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67517 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:28 am to
Now list the countries that will take all of the old batteries.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12796 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:30 am to
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The real headline here is that China is projected to lose market share to the US over the next 5 years.

And those numbers are lower than the projections I've seen. Hate the IRA all you want, but its helping bringing manufacturing back to the US.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12796 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:33 am to
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Not really considering that a decent portion of the battery materials can be recycled and reused

We're decades from needing recycling at any scale. The real market will be in repair of units with physical damage and repowering degraded units, then repurposing as grid interconnected storage.
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2010 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:38 am to
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The largest EV company by far is a U.S. company


Now show us their manufacturing, operations, and sales breakdown by country. You'll be surprised.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12796 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:58 am to
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Now list the countries that will take all of the old batteries.

If they’re giving them away we should take all of them and use them.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:40 am to
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This is kind of frightening actually.



Once the Great Reset happens and everyone has caved to electric vehicles, you will become slaves and you will not travel out of your neighborhood. At that point you will not have the ability to fight back and you will have your Dim friends to thank for it.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:41 am to
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tOT: Elon is a genius, perhaps the smartest person alive today.

Also tOT: Anyone pushing EVs and batteries is a retarded child slavery supporter.


I know you're a Dim so things don't register very well for you, but let me break it down for you.

There's nothing wrong with a stupid Dim like you buying an EV, there's something wrong with forcing the entire population to buy one.
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