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The jab is not protecting you!

Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:16 am
Posted by kajuntiga
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Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:16 am
But it’s still bizarre that everyone who thought they were doing the right thing by getting vaccinated may be more susceptible to the latest variant. Heck, it was Joe Biden who once said, “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”

Remember that? Classic.

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Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:18 am to
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3490 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:21 am to
“XBB.1.5 is the most transmissible form of COVID-19 that we know of to date and may be more likely to infect people who have been vaccinated or already had COVID-19.”

I know the article is interpreting this similarly to you. But I don’t believe they are saying that the vaccine puts you at risk. I think they are saying this variant puts the vaccinated at higher risk than other strains did.

Essentially I think they are just bending over backwards to not directly say that the vaccine doesn’t do much for this variant.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 7:25 am
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6058 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:22 am to
100% effective, does that mean it has, at minimum, a measurable effect on death and hospitalization in 100% of people who receive it? Weird phrasing, he didn’t say “you will not die or be hospitalized for Covid if you take this shot.” Glad I didn’t take it.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15021 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:25 am to
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Essentially I think they are just bending over backwards to not directly say that the vaccine doesn’t do anything for this variant.


Which tracks with other highly mutative upper respiratory viruses like influenza.

Your interpretation seems right, though, I suspect the actual message here is "vaccines now do nearly nothing" which will be followed by new boosters that people are increasingly not bothering with.

They might as well just move on at this point.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15021 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:26 am to
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100% effective, does that mean it has, at minimum, a measurable effect on death and hospitalization in 100% of people who receive it? Weird phrasing, he didn’t say “you will not die or be hospitalized for Covid if you take this shot.” Glad I didn’t take it.


The phrasing is even weirder if that quote is accurate because he's basically saying the covid vaccine will protect you from death or hospitalization.

In which case, time to start skydiving without a parachute.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3490 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:27 am to
Agreed. I’m vaccinated and no longer getting boosters
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76113 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:28 am to
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I think they are saying this variant puts the vaccinated at higher risk than other strains did.

Which makes it NOT A VACCINE, but rather an injectable gene therapy which teaches your body to manufacture the spike protein.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:39 am to
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:42 am to












100%
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Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95055 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:44 am to
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They might as well just move on at this point.




They can't. They changed the way voting, travel, business will be done forever. It is their, pardon the pun, "Trump" card.

They're not letting it go.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136690 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:55 am to
quote:

“XBB.1.5 is the most transmissible form of COVID-19 that we know of to date and may be more likely to infect people who have been vaccinated or already had COVID-19.”
quote:

thought they were doing the right thing by getting vaccinated may be more susceptible to the latest variant.
Just FWIW, by "more susceptible" I don't think he meant more susceptible than the unvaxxed. I think he meant more susceptible than with previous variants.


Re: "XBB.1.5 is the most transmissible form of COVID-19 that we know of to date"... until the next variant ... which will continue the pattern.
quote:

Because CV19, prior to variants, was both more virulent and more heavily impacted by the vax. The vax was the singular way to move us away from fear porn and economic shutdowns. It was a totally different situation.

Natural selection in a novel viral course invariably leads to variants with lower virulence, greater contagiousness/transmissibility, and lowered vax efficacy. That is exactly what we've seen with SARS-CoV-2. BA.4 and BA.5 are easier to catch, less serious when contracted, and not affected much by the current vax.
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Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23114 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:58 am to
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Re: "XBB.1.5 is the most transmissible form of COVID-19 that we know of to date"... until the next variant ... which will continue the pattern.


So it’s super transmissible. It seems they forget to tell you what are the adverse effects? If it’s super transmissible but just causes minor symptoms then who gives a shite.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:00 am to
Surprising how many people don't even realise that the original first two vaccine doses were for protection from a virus that is 100% completely extinct.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6542 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:02 am to
Biden says get a jab
Trump said drink disinfectant

Do neither
How the pure bloods doing in China right now ?
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23073 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:03 am to
I see stupid people.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139612 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:04 am to
The purpose of XBB.1.5 is to provide justification to extend Executive Branch COVID-19 Emergency Declaration powers and all the downstream benefits that come with those powers.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:11 am to
quote:

100% effective, does that mean it has, at minimum, a measurable effect on death and hospitalization in 100% of people who receive it? Weird phrasing, he didn’t say “you will not die or be hospitalized for Covid if you take this shot.” Glad I didn’t take it.

I had the same thought you did. "Depends on what the definition of "effective" is"
I heard an interview with a guy who said Fauci is really good at phrasing just right for him to wiggle out of any kind of prosecution, so don't expect much from congressional hearings.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:12 am to
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Trump said drink disinfectant

Ohhh I missed that one...please provide the exact quote and context please. TIA.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5766 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:15 am to
They lied.
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