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The truth about the SOTH vote the media doesn't like

Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2671 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:21 am
The truth is this is exactly how this process should go. We for too long have had basically 2 votes. A dem vote and a Rep vote. The media wants us all to think they are all supposed to vote in a block. The reality is those 200+ Dems and 200+ Rep voting in a huge block represent vastly different voter bases. They should be digging in expressing their opinions and I'm sure they are. But to say a group of them is wrong for digging in and using the power of their vote for leverage is bad and the party is split is just a lie. The party is healthy if it does that. This country got along much better when both parties had segments of their party that weren't in lock step. Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema are healthy for the democrat party. The old "Blue Dog" Democrats are deeply missed. I haven't always agreed with some of the groups that split off and dig in on both sides but it creates healthy debate, slows down a process that needs more dialogue and forces concessions. It keeps the extremes on both sides from running the show. For too long the last 20 years this country has been run by about about 5-10 people demanding everyone agree with them.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 8:24 am
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5478 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:24 am to
The dems fall in line immediately so the media was confused.
Posted by Douggie
Member since Jan 2023
46 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:25 am to
The truth is McCarthy, the Dems, and the Media are all on the same team
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127560 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:30 am to
One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 8:32 am
Posted by Joeybd
Member since Oct 2022
544 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:31 am to
The fringe rule or ruin 20 displayed the disfunction of the GOP, a weak unorganized group.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5118 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:35 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.


What do you need security briefings for if you're not voting on anything?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101807 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:36 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.

What do you need security briefings for if you're not voting on anything?


That was a ridiculous canard.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68590 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:37 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications.


If the government cared about that, the border would be controlled.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141092 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:38 am to
You idiots lick that dumb shite up like you love it.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1372 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:38 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications


Utter nonsense
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46569 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:38 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.


A benefit of not rubber stamping these SOTH nominees is getting some house rules in place that may help in holding these D.C. Cesspool lawmakers to account.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2671 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:40 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.




I get it but it still doesn't mean the debate is wrong. The party with the concessions McCarthy had to make is much more representative of the country than if they all got in lock step. The system is designed to put more pressure as time passes. That's all healthy.
Posted by Stonehog
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Member since Aug 2011
33417 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:45 am to
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The dems fall in line immediately so the media was confused.


All the Manchin and Sinema hand wringing proves this false.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71668 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:08 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.


Wait, you think our national security is at risk because a handful of Representatives are sworn in a few days late??
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3438 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:14 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.


Please explain how this affects national security. No funding was at risk since the previous Congress passed the Omnibus bill. Congresscritters not being briefed has what impact on the daily operations of our government agencies?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162282 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:17 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.


This is a reach

If we're depending on some junior congressmen to fortify our national defense we're doing it wrong
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23339 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:18 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.


Of course you fell for that.

Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10606 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:19 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications.


Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15900 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:22 am to
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That was a ridiculous canard.

It was. It was a weak attempt to yet again use fear to generate outrage.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27992 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:28 am to
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One of the concerns with dragging it out though was the national security implications. When you’re not sworn in as a member of Congress, you don’t have access to security briefings.

This is embarrassing

But its you, so I guess expected
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