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Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11646 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:22 pm
My IRA accounts suck.

For some months this year, like clock work, my contribution would be added to the funds, and by mid month the accounts would settle back down to near the previous month’s value with the added shares.

I am thinking about getting off the train I am on now and restarting fresh with a new allotment of funds, and taking the loss, tax hit, and penalty in January to build up some cash reserves.

The way the market is looking short term, withdrawing even with the tax penalty could be more advantageous than continuing to lose money.

Any suggestions on future fund recommendations, my company uses Invesco funds?
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2195 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:27 pm to
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IRA

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continuing to lose money


How are you losing money? Are you about to retire?

If not, you're buying stocks when they are ON SALE. Please remember that. Would you return a car b/c it's cheap right now and tell the dealer you'll come back later and buy it when the price goes up?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58529 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:28 pm to
You’re never gonna retire baw and it’s ok because we’ll all be bros in the fema camp next year and they’ll just mass grave us when we can’t work anymore

You should just yolo my daily stock picks if you want to make money


ETA: oh yeah

Buy these stocks ON SALE so somebody else can cash out at your expense
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 7:30 pm
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5880 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:34 pm to
Many would argue it is too late to pull money out of the market. That may or may not be true.

I'd at least park it in a money market fund, if available, instead of emptying the account.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:36 pm to
If you are not retiring in the next couple of years, why not buy low and enjoy much larger nest egg upon retirement via more shares bought?

Consider it.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:42 pm to
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You’re never gonna retire baw


Your outlook on the future suggests your retirement algebra is wrong. You may be expecting a future market to generate a a great lifestyle. Your consistent theme suggests to me that you might want to change the algebra mindset.

Time to live below your means and modulate on that lifestyle, Baw. Don't let the Boomer control you or your mindset anymore.

Time of change is now.

Good luck.
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1762 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:49 pm to
2 things

It’s an IRA, if it’s fidelity or vanguard you aren’t limited to just Invesco. And if so, dude there are tons of options that are good.

Also, you gave shite information. What’s your age? You clearly have no risk tolerance or dont understand stocks and how stocks go up and down. Don’t cash out, buy sp500 or total international funds and ride the roller coaster.

Stop being a baby
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 7:50 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40326 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

For some months this year, like clock work, my contribution would be added to the funds, and by mid month the accounts would settle back down to near the previous month’s value with the added shares.

I am thinking about getting off the train I am on now and restarting fresh with a new allotment of funds, and taking the loss, tax hit, and penalty in January to build up some cash reserves.

The way the market is looking short term, withdrawing even with the tax penalty could be more advantageous than continuing to lose money.


wtf lol
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:14 pm to
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I am thinking about getting off the train I am on now and restarting fresh with a new allotment of funds, and taking the loss, tax hit, and penalty in January to build up some cash reserves.



Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
3316 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:19 pm to
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IRA

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Tax hit


Does not compute. As long as you don’t withdraw from the IRA, you can completely change your allocations with no tax penalty.

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Any suggestions on future fund recommendations, my company uses Invesco funds?


Did you mean 401k? Even then, you should be able to change to any other fund offered (possibly including money market) without penalty.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13868 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 9:25 pm to
Be happy you are breaking somewhat even. Just calculated contributions of 401k (43.5k), 457 (20.5k), and 401a (17.5k), with December 15th dividends over 50k, and I’m still down almost 100k this year overall.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58529 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 7:53 am to
Is it so hard to believe that things are going to fall apart and we’re going to move away from a convenience economy back to something more akin to the good old days?

Nowadays the neocon dream is to work at the cubicle farm and put 2.5% of your paycheck into vanguard until you can get some windfall and retire early or work until they kick you out at which point you wear tommy Bahama and wait for social security to kick in. After 10 years your kids reverse mortgage your house and put you in the nursing home where they stick you full of tubes and keep you alive indefinitely against your will until you die of an infected bedsore

Y’all act like this is the way things have always been when it’s only been this way for like 30 years

What I’m proposing is that things will go back to the good ol days one way or another. Our economy where all the inputs come from China and everyone in America just middlemans Chinese junk to each other will come to an end and either we go back to subsistence or we go back to making things ourselves

The powers that be don’t want us to make anything ourselves and will hinder that as much as they can. I know none of this matters but in the context of our discussion I’m saying that the stock market isn’t going back to 2021 levels
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31732 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 8:50 am to
Most of the time, I don’t understand how financial advisors justify their existence. Then I read threads like this, and it all makes sense.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51572 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 9:31 am to
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Most of the time, I don’t understand how financial advisors justify their existence. Then I read threads like this, and it all makes sense.


This is true, sad part is many "financial advisors" aren't any smarter and are just pushing products that make them commissions
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