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Republicans have got to stop being so fickle on candidate quality

Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91076 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:04 pm
It matters for president. It does not matter for Senate or House members. All they are is a vote. Democrats know this and will vote D no matter who it is. And they win.

Republicans take their ball and go home like petulant children and we lose. Who the frick cares if Walker 25 years ago made a woman have an abortion? People make mistakes. The question is will he vote against abortion? Because Warnock 100% won’t. If you prefer MAGA candidates great, but stop staying home if a GOPe is the primary winner. 90% conservative voter is better than 100% democrat voter. Moderate republicans stop staying home because a maga candidate won the primary. You still support mostly conservative causes and that candidate will vote that way. A moderate democrat doesn’t exist.

Democrats are loving this division and the media is fueling it and you idiots are swallowing it hook line and sinker all while Democrats win and continue to destroy this country. I hope you enjoy your bugs in 2030
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31384 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:07 pm to
Are you talking about republican voters or the leadership?
Posted by mikeybates
Member since Sep 2020
238 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:08 pm to
Again, many voters don't feel this way. If the customer says they want something else, maybe give them what they want, rather than telling them that they are wrong?

And I agree with you. I would vote for any R. But some people won't. So give them what they want.
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:15 pm to
Prime example is that Pa. voted for John Fetterman.

But La Republicans would rather have John Bel Edwards than Vitter.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
3806 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:17 pm to
After having to vote for crappy candidates year after year in the Republican Party and being told these were the best options, any republican not voting for a conservative because the option isn’t the most articulate candidate or sends mean tweets, can go F themselves.

I’ve had to hold my nose on Mittens, McCain, and the like. And, see where those “qualified” candidates got us.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6273 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:39 pm to
Elon musk could have been the candidate, if the shumer-McConnell cartel didn’t want him in, the dem votes would have been there to keep him out. Kemp, they can control, the fault doesn’t lie with voters
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:39 pm to
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It matters for president. It does not matter for Senate or House members. All they are is a vote. Democrats know this and will vote D no matter who it is. And they win.


Check out the other thread about what the Senate and house passed with just a handful of turncoats. Your problem is you lump the legislative and executive branch into one. They are separate and equally destructive.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11647 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:03 pm to
I am just constantly amazed at how gullable people are. The Dems have an amazing network given their collusion with the media. As soon as a GOP candidate begins to emerge or gain any type of momentum, they begin an all out attack to discredit them via any means possible. Desantis, Lake, Herschel, Noem...and so on and so on and so on. While Herschel had flaws for sure, they absolutely controlled the narrative (wife beater, child abuser, etc.) while the DEM candidate had the same issues. Now Desantis is the target, look at every show on every network, they throw out negative comments about him. NO matter what the topic. I expect the DEM voter to run with the stories, but look how many "conservatives" and "MAGA" posters on here constantly repeated the stories thereby carrying the water for them. Meanwhile, DEM voters knew Fetterman was totally incompetent, but they understand the end game, get control of the house/senate and then deal with the compromised delegate for the good of the agenda. That's why they win and will continue to do so.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:29 pm to
Republicans blaming voters or non-establishment candidates for most election losses is like blaming a rape victim for allowing herself to get raped. The problem isn’t republicans. The problem is that there is a massive criminal operation that is disenfranchising the people of the United States in order to “elect” candidates to federal office that supports a globalist oligarchic cabal. This isn’t a republican vs democrat thing. This is a “the people” vs their government thing.

We are not a democracy. We are not a republic. We are an occupied nation.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
13687 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:33 pm to
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deltaland


Your mistake is thinking that the GOP wants to be in charge. They do not. They only want to be able to campaign to grift money from people who hope their elected persons will "do this or that". When the elected people only want to be able to make it to the next election cycle and raise more money and attend cocktail parties in DC.

Most GOP just want to be able to make a few speeches about how bad democrats are and if elected they will destroy them. But they never do, even when they have the opportunity.

They are cowards. Like turtle, not spending money on candidates who had a chance at winning while sending money to Alaska to help retain Murkowski who NOBOBY wants.

Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4350 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:46 pm to
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It matters for president. It does not matter for Senate or House members. All they are is a vote.


I don’t agree. This description sounds like an upside down parliamentary system where people vote for the head and let them fill in the parliamentary majority.

We don’t have a parliament. Our system works better when congress and the executive are not in strict lock step based on party affiliation. Gridlock and compromise is a feature, not a bug of our system.

The individual in congress does matter.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8328 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:47 pm to
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It does not matter for Senate or House members.


They arent

Thats the narrative they want you to believe.


Takes the blame off them for not doing anything, ever.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
2645 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:53 pm to
If by fickle you mean support horrible candidates, then why even vote Republican?
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9638 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:09 pm to
A baggage free real conservative would have won this race.
Republicans won up and down the Georgia ballot in November, and Walker couldn’t ride their coattails.

Like it or not, there are a lot of voters who demand intellectual and moral consistency. We see it here on the Board everyday. They do not want to cast a vote for someone they believe is lying to them, or will lie to them. They want someone who is up to the job-who won’t embarrass them every time he speaks. They obviously thought that Walker isn’t up to the job.
There are smarter and cleaner Republicans. That’s who needs to be nominated, and in a state like Georgia, that’s who can win.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27930 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:17 pm to
But what happens when they are shitty retail candidates like Walker?

What happens when you misread the electorate?

This ain't your Daddy's Georgia anymore.

I watched a commercial for Warnock he was appealing to white suburbanites. White suburban and urban dwellers supported him in large enough numbers to make a difference. Find out what the soccer moms want....it is not just safety and security.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424741 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Who the frick cares if Walker 25 years ago made a woman have an abortion? People make mistakes.

The problem is when your candidates promote an extremely conservative social policy, then their life choices will come under more scrutiny.

It's a bar that few can overcome, which is why those requirements are stupid.

The "Republicans have got to stop being so fickle on candidate quality" has to start with policies for the candidates to promote. Stop pushing losing issues and you won't have such easy targets for hypocrisy.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20929 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:57 pm to
Republican leadership is the blame for everything wrong! When Turtle is more concerned about supporting RINO's over MAGA candidates, you have a problem! Secondly, until the large urban city voting issues are cleaned up, a Repub will never return to the oval office. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin come to mind, but Arizona's slow count was a joke as well. Get rid of mail in ballots & demand election results the same night of the election!!
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