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re: Christmas themed, all ages drag show in TX
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:13 pm to oogabooga68
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:13 pm to oogabooga68
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Um, this attempt at ret-conning and spin isn't going to undo the hours and hours and hours of obsessive defense of groomers and pedos.
History is a thing.
i agree. i've found his other posts lacking, but there's at least one where he has said kids shouldn't be there. not taking away from his past posts, but it's better than doubling down.
y'all can keep ganging up, but he at least said something we can agree on.
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:21 pm to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Nothing says "Holiday Family Cheer" like chicks with dicks harassing children.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:30 pm to 3nOut
3NO, feel free to go back and look. My past posts have been in threads related to Storytime, not to "drag shows."
Seriously, is the concern that I stayed on-topic and did not instead start railing about the evils of drag shows, in threads that were not ABOUT drag shows?
Seriously, is the concern that I stayed on-topic and did not instead start railing about the evils of drag shows, in threads that were not ABOUT drag shows?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:36 pm to AggieHank86
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3NO, feel free to go back and look. My past posts have been in threads related to Storytime, not to "drag shows."
i disagree with you on storytime being acceptable, but not good. that's not a hill i'm dying on though.
i think that the line is fairly difficult. i won't begrudge you on it like others do, but if you google drag time story hour, none of the pictures are a man in a sensible blouse, they're usually a sexualized version of drag which lends itself to drag shows too much for my taste.
we can disagree on particulars, i'm just saying that you're on record in my book in saying kids shouldn't be at drag shows, at a minimum.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:04 pm to AggieHank86
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I try to understand the pathology, so that it can be addressed, but to you that constitutes “defense.” Shallow, emotional thinking.
It feels like you are splitting hairs on a lot of this for another reason that has to do with the discussion indirectly - you want to make sure there is NO clear connection between abhorrent sexual deviancy - like under age attraction - and more general deviancy homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism, etc.
That's why you want to be specific of the pathology - to make sure "normal" homosexuality and transgenderism is bucketed with normal heterosexuality.
But in reality - anything outside of heterosexuality is a sexual deviancy and anything outside of monogamous heterosexuality is a moral deviancy at the very least. But to be fair, this is what all progressives are engaged in, trying to defend and include deviancy where it shouldn't be.
And to be fair, legal things can be deviant. Like drag shows shouldn't be illegal and people SHOULD be conscious of what they involve their kids in. It SHOULD at the very least be like a bar - you can bring your kid into a bar in some instances if you are the parent and are there, etc. BUT it should NOT be seen as normal either. Those things can both be achieved.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:29 pm to Freauxzen
quote:That is fair. I DO see a significant distinction between (a) activities among consenting adults and (b) sexual abuse of minor children.
you want to make sure there is NO clear connection between what might be abhorrent sexual deviancy - like under age attraction - and more general homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism, etc.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:37 pm to AggieHank86
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I DO see a significant distinction between (a) activities among consenting adults and (b) sexual abuse of minor children.
So it's ONLY about age, and whatever sexual practices involved are really not a part of the discussion. Whereas, most people who disagree probably see the sexual practices as part of the discussion.
Obviously a much bigger discussion, but I think the point to most of this is that sexual deviancy is sexual deviancy. It's outside of the norm - even homosexuality - and to try and normalize those things leads to the other side of the deviancy scale - hence the hard responses against it.
It's hard NOT to see these things as connected though even if for you there are very different circumstances between who is involved.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:38 pm to AggieHank86
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That is fair. I DO see a significant distinction between (a) activities among consenting adults and (b) sexual abuse of minor children.
Why are you making a point no one is arguing against?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:39 pm to Freauxzen
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anything outside of monogamous heterosexuality is a moral deviancy
Eh, disagree with ya there, but I'm nitpicking.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:42 pm to AggieHank86
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The idea that kids are in any sort of "danger" at a DQS is just laughable, IMO.
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Most of the opposition seems to be from folks who want to "protect" the kids from seeing something that they believe is weird
Glorifying sexual fetishes in front of kids is just that they believe it's weird.
You're just a lunatic here.
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AggieHank86
Oh
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:42 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:just responding to something Freauxzen specifically raised.
Why are you making a point no one is arguing against?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:46 pm to AggieHank86
May be time to let this drag thread go and get pumped up for the next one.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:53 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Why are you making a point no one is arguing against?
Eh, I'd disagree. This conversation revolves around that point without saying it. And it's ALSO why the media, and in general other democrats, don't take hard stances about these sorts of things. And the arguments Hank throws up are ABOUT separating two things that really aren't that separate.
It's specifically WHY this stuff is pushed as well. Pushing sexual deviancy on kids early can lead to ANY sexual deviancy. it's distorting their moral view of the world.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:57 pm to AggieHank86
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I see no harm in Drag Queen Storytime. I personally would probably not take my daughters to one (if they were still that age), because I just would not want the hassle of explaining "drag" to a preschooler. The idea that kids are in any sort of "danger" at a DQS is just laughable, IMO. Most of the opposition seems to be from folks who want to "protect" the kids from seeing something that they believe is weird.
First of all, it IS weird, let's start there. Weird doesn't always = wrong, but given that most dudes dress as dudes, and most chicks as chicks, drag falls into the weird category as a matter of course. Also, as you know, my kids are in that preschool age range (5 and 2). Passing off the weird to them as normal/harmless is a tenuous proposition in general. When the weirdness is based on sexuality? Not appropriate, be the sexuality gay or straight. That's the rub with Drag Queen Storytimes. Focus at that age SHOULD be just on the magic of reading, anyways, not the weird appearance of the reader attempting to be passed off as normal.
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I also find it disingenuous to watch the pearl-clutching posters bring "drag shows" into the storytime discussion. It is almost an admission that they do not REALLY see harm in the storytime, so they MUST equate it to something more problematic.
This is inaccurate. First of all, DQS *is* problematic on its face, as I laid out above. Secondly, it's not disingenuous at all to compare drag shows to DQS. It's probably the most cogent juxtaposition one can make. It's not that it's merely in the same ballpark--the seats are right next to each other in the same row of the same section.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:08 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Passing off the weird to them as normal/harmless is a tenuous proposition in general. When the weirdness is based on sexuality? Not appropriate, be the sexuality gay or straight. That's the rub with Drag Queen Storytimes. Focus at that age SHOULD be just on the magic of reading, anyways, not the weird appearance of the reader attempting to be passed off as normal.
probably the most succinct, and correct way of looking at it. Outstanding! I have a file of things I save for my daughter to help her understand how the world got this way, and what people thought at the time. This made it in. Thank you!
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:09 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:hard to imagine. When you and I first spoke, you didn’t have any kids yet, and my girls were just Littles. They are now 13 and 14.
as you know, my kids are in that preschool age range (5 and 2)
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:12 pm to AggieHank86
they have drag show Bingo at that bakery off Lee Dr. in Baton Rouge
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:15 pm to AggieHank86
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When you and I first spoke, you didn’t have any kids yet, and my girls were just Littles. They are now 13 and 14.
Yours are teens now?! Yeah that really is wild
I was thinking about that the other day, actually--my account on this site is older than my marriage. In fact, I made it the same month I proposed to Aggiebelle/graduated from A&M (Dec. 2010). Fast forward to today, I've been both sworn in and out of the military (actually been out of the Air Force longer than I was in), and become a father twice over, with the oldest wrapping up his first semester in kindergarten (he loves it) 
Hope you and yours have a very merry christmas!
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:17 pm to Taxing Authority
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Taxing Authority
Thx! Good to see you
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I have a file of things I save for my daughter to help her understand how the world got this way, and what people thought at the time. This made it in. Thank you!
I should probably have a compilation of sorts like that for my kids, as well. My daughter was born June 2020, during the height of the COVID craze, so as things have gone back to some semblance of normal, she and her peers have had to constantly readjust to a world they're constantly learning. It's a wild way of thinking about it!
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I have not seen pictures of your kids recently. Good looking brood. I suspect the little girls in kindergarten are already chasing that boy.
It looks to me like your daughter has Belle’s face shape, and that boy looks like a mocha version of you.
Kids are funny. My oldest has her mothers light coloration, hair, etc. But she has my personality. The little one looks just like my family, but has her mothers personality.
It looks to me like your daughter has Belle’s face shape, and that boy looks like a mocha version of you.
Kids are funny. My oldest has her mothers light coloration, hair, etc. But she has my personality. The little one looks just like my family, but has her mothers personality.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:27 pm
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