re: Christmas themed, all ages drag show in TX

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100 hebes (can I say that?)

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It would technically be an accurate statement. It would also be a lie, as the intent is to deceive the reader.

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In that hypo, perhaps that might be the motivation.

Years ago, I read some significantly-more detailed scholarly analysis on this point. Unfortunately, I did not bookmark it, and I have not been able to find it this morning.

My recollection is that your hypothetical is not consistent with the actual data. No, I cannot confirm that for you with a link today.

But as both SuperT and Azkiger noted, it makes sense, if you set aside emotion and think about the facts.

You and I often disagree, but you do actually engage in discussion, rather than just hurling feces from the peanut gallery.

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What is being promoted at these events is the insane and anti-scientific notion that children can “transition” to the opposite sex by undergoing a program of genital mutilation and chemical castration.

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How dare you question the "experts".

If I were a Doctor or Nurse, I'd be enraged at the nutjobs in my profession (which sadly seem to be the majority at this point) who promote this barbarism.

The reputation of the Medical Industry has taken numerous hits the past few years they may never recover from.

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and are trying to recreate your image but it isn’t going to work

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Exactly.

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any variation of something above would probably be something you could bookmark and get people off your back.

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Too late for that, Hank went full retard (pardon the phrase).

Now and forever, his username will be associated with pond scum, with the type of people that rapists and murderers look down on.

When Hank went all in on defending, promoting and white-knighting for pedophiles and groomers, he crossed a line that can't be uncrossed.

No matter how he tries to spin History, his idiocy and creepiness were displayed for all to see.

You can't un-ring a bell.

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but i don't think they should be illegal.

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I don't either, but they have no place in a public library or school. Nor does any hetero burlesque show, nor do we need "Reading Hour With Mistress X" for children, or any other act or costume that has a sexual element. If you want to read to children dress up in normal fricking clothes and leave the sex out of it.

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on that thread, i called out SFP and Hank for not at least saying "hey i think kids probably shouldn't be at drag shows."

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I do not recall your asking that question. I am happy to answer it.

1. I see no harm in Drag Queen Storytime. I personally would probably not take my daughters to one (if they were still that age), because I just would not want the hassle of explaining "drag" to a preschooler. But I see absolutely no reason that a different parent, with different kids, should not be able to make a different decision. I suppose they could just say that the performer is "playing pretend." None of my business. The idea that kids are in any sort of "danger" at a DQS is just laughable, IMO. Most of the opposition seems to be from folks who want to "protect" the kids from seeing something that they believe is weird. Fine, don't take your kids.

2. A full-on drag show, in a bar with a striptease and with drinking and a room full of drunks is a different question. I DO see potential harm in taking small children there. Exactly the same sort of harm I would see in taking small children to a burlesque show with FEMALE performers or to a rowdy bar. There are two issues for me. First, the drunks and generally rowdy behavior. Second, the potentially-sexualized nature of the performances ... completely INDEPENDENT of the sex/gender of the performers. If a parent were to take a small child into that atmosphere (regardless of whether the performers are male or female), I would question the judgment of that parent, but I would NOT interfere with that parent's right to make decisions on behalf of his child. It is NOT my place to tell someone else that they cannot expose their children to something, just because I would not make the same decision for MY kids.

3. Events like the "brunches" straddle the line for me. Is it just a guy dressed like Marilyn, singing a song or two in a sequined dress? Meh, and you don't see a lot of rowdy drunks at a brunch. But if the show is one step short of a strip show, complete with the bump-and-grind? No, I would not take a small child to the latter, no more than I would allow a child to watch an R-rated film. My concern is unrelated to the fact that the performers are men in dresses. The concern is the ACTUAL sexualization.

The difference I have with many posters here is the notion that the problem with a "drag show" is inherent in the sex/gender of the performers. Sorry, but I just do not agree.

I also find it disingenuous to watch the pearl-clutching posters bring "drag shows" into the storytime discussion. It is almost an admission that they do not REALLY see harm in the storytime, so they MUST equate it to something more problematic. (Hence my analogy months ago, comparing Westminster to dog fights in pits. My point was that CERTAIN posters would insist that you favor pit fights, if all you say is that there is no harm in Westminster.)

Does that answer your question?

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The difference I have with many posters here is the notion that the problem with a "drag show" is inherent in the sex/gender of the performers. Sorry, but I just do not agree.

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i agree 100% wit this statement. i do think that a drag show is going to have a higher % chance that a performer is likely to abuse children.

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2. A full-on drag show, in a bar with a striptease and with drinking and a room full of drunks is a different question. I DO see potential harm in taking small children there. Exactly the same sort of harm I would see in taking small children to a burlesque show with FEMALE performers or to a rowdy bar. There are two issues for me. First, the drunks and generally rowdy behavior. Second, the potentially-sexualized nature of the performances ... completely INDEPENDENT of the sex/gender of the performers. If a parent were to take a small child into that atmosphere, I would question the judgment of that parent, but I would NOT interfere with that parent's right to make decisions on behalf of his child. It is NOT my place to tell someone else that they cannot expose their children to something, just because I would not make the same decision for MY kids.

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i find this to be a completely valid and reasonable statement. when people call you a pedo defender, point to this post and you should be good.

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i find this to be a completely valid and reasonable statement. when people call you a pedo defender, point to this post and you should be good.

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Not really. It is entirely consistent with everything that I have ever written on this issue. When I ask them to point to ANY inconsistent statement, they either disappear or just start hurling feces.

Certain posters (either because they are muckrakers or because they are imbeciles) will ALWAYS try to equate Westminster with a pit fight.

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See the immediately-preceding post. Ooga lives for the opportunity to follow me around, yapping like Paris Hilton's purse dog.

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a Dog Show reference

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Will not surprise me in the least when Hanky is in here defending beastiity…. A depraved mind knows no bounds….