- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Christmas themed, all ages drag show in TX
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Holy shite, the time flies.
0
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:25 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:
Glorifying sexual fetishes in front of kids
I am not sure why people here seem to think that drga shows are inherently sexual. Its definitely not typically a fetish. Drag performers are not likely to have sex in Drag. I have never known one, and I have known plenty of gays that are into Drag. It seems obvious to me, that most gay guys aren't into their partners dressing up as women from a sexual perspective. Obviously there are outliers and plenty of Bi people that may be into it but it's inherently against the concept of male gayness in the first place and I think that disconnect is partly why social conservatives have such a hard time with this. Drag is about celebrating femininity and exploring/displaying that spectrum while loudly and proudly being yourself, and being comfortable with yourself is absolutely an idea that children should be exposed to.
Equating it to a burlesque show is misleading as Drag is often not that. "All Ages" is a disclaimer that it is not going to be that kind of show.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:30 pm to Fells
quote:People tend to confuse cross dressing (a sexual fetish, primarily among heterosexual men), drag (purely a performance, primarily gay men), and transgender ism (actually thinking/wanting to be the other sex). Pretty much the only thing they have in common with one another is elements of the costume.
I am not sure why people here seem to think that drga shows are inherently sexual. Its definitely not typically a fetish. Drag performers are not likely to have sex in Drag.
When a cross-dresser puts on silk stockings, he’s going to get aroused. When a drag performer does so, it is just a costume for tonight‘s performance. When a transgender does so, it’s just like you or I putting on a pair of socks.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:34 pm to Fells
quote:I’ve seen a number of drag shows, and this is partially true in my experience. Every show has had elements of burlesque and also elements of something resembling vaudeville. You get the feel of a variety show, to me.
Equating it to a burlesque show is misleading as Drag is often not that. "All Ages" is a disclaimer that it is not going to be that kind of show.
Different performers, different acts, a different feel.
I have never seen a show that even remotely resembles the things that we are seeing in these various Twitter clips that get posted here … the whole striptease vibe.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:37 pm to Fells
quote:
I am not sure why people here seem to think that drag shows are inherently sexual.
quote:
Drag is about celebrating femininity and exploring/displaying that spectrum while loudly and proudly being yourself
This is where you lose the plot. Femininity can (and is) celebrated by millions without the need to present as the opposite sex by so celebrating. Also, millions are loudly/proudly themselves without being drag queens to prove such. That is where it crosses from simple celebration of femininity into fetish territory (which, btw, doesn't necessitate a sex act in said raiment).
quote:
being comfortable with yourself is absolutely an idea that children should be exposed to.
This is a glib reach, I'm sorry. Adults should endeavor (within reason/safety/respect for rights/etc.) to be comfortable with/express themselves, but not all such expressions are appropriate for minors. The idea of children being comfortable with themselves can easily be introduced sans sexual themes, which is what drag will always inherently be.
Also, I say this as someone who, while self-aware enough to realize I'm mostly right of the current center of the Overton window, am quite classically liberal when it comes to matters of sex/marriage/orientation/etc. My stances RE: drag and children are purely born of child-rearing, which, as my pics show, I'm in the throes of the most tender stages right now.
quote:
Equating it to a burlesque show is misleading as Drag is often not that. "All Ages" is a disclaimer that it is not going to be that kind of show.
Too often, the aesthetic of these "all ages" drag shows has been exactly that of a burlesque show. Now, whether it's just the most egregious examples that have circulated in my online sphere, is up for debate, but it's not at all misleading for the equation to be made, given what I've seen.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:47 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Understandable. I tend to look at it through the lens of my only female cousin and a female friend of my older daughter.
My stances RE: drag and children are purely born of child-rearing, which, as my pics show, I'm in the throes of the most tender stages right now.
My cousin is a BEAUTIFUL girl. She went through a Goth phase in her teens. Funky hair, piercings, weird makeup. The whole panoply. She is now a beautiful, perfectly normal suburban mom. Her parents did not try to deprogram her. She just grew out of it.
My daughter's friend is also a beautiful girl. In the last four years, she has "changed" her name three times and has decided that she is "trans" and then changed her mind, twice. I have no doubt that she too will grow out of it and be a perfectly normal suburban mom in twenty years.
Don't hack them up, but let them explore who they are and find their own way. Most likely, they find their way back to normalcy.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:49 pm to AggieHank86
Treating trans as a trend is messed up. Kids don’t have to go through the awkward stage pretending to be the opposite sex. This glamorization and applauding this behavior is creating more of it. That’s clear.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:51 pm to roadGator
You may be right, but to me the vast majority of it just looks like the current iteration of greasers, punks, goth, etc.
Until you start medicating and slicing, of course. That is the reason that I absolutely do not support medicating or slicing minor children.
Of course, we are going pretty far afield here, discussing transgender issues in a drag thread.
Until you start medicating and slicing, of course. That is the reason that I absolutely do not support medicating or slicing minor children.
Of course, we are going pretty far afield here, discussing transgender issues in a drag thread.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:52 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Don't hack them up, but let them explore who they are and find their own way. Most likely, they find their way back to normalcy.
Yep, seems to be the least catastrophic play, given the environment in which most kids are growing up these days. Having 8 younger siblings has helped my perspective in that regard, tbh. My youngest sibling is my 15 year old sister. Watching her peers and supporting her throughout (she's pretty low-key, but some of my other siblings went through various phases of some sort), it's made it a little easier to "preview" how to navigate my own kids' developments. Won't be the same as mine/Aggiebelle's, obviously (same as ours wasn't a carbon copy of our own parents), but the sky won't fall if we stay engaged.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:55 pm to AggieHank86
I am right. This trans trend is recent. It followed the I am a lesbian non binary trend.
I had one kid in art middle and high school. The cool kids were gay, trans, saw therapists and were all on some prescribed meds.
If you weren’t in the club you were the outsider. Many of her friends claimed lesbianism and only one actually was in the end. The normies modeled the trans behavior with the encouragement of the freak teachers.
It’s pathetic.
I had one kid in art middle and high school. The cool kids were gay, trans, saw therapists and were all on some prescribed meds.
If you weren’t in the club you were the outsider. Many of her friends claimed lesbianism and only one actually was in the end. The normies modeled the trans behavior with the encouragement of the freak teachers.
It’s pathetic.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:56 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
to me the vast majority of it just looks like the current iteration of greasers, punks, goth, etc.
I think that's what it'll settle into, in large part. It's a hot button issue now, but it'll be replaced by a different hot button issue in subsequent generations, and eventually find its own sea level of acceptance but not necessarily dominance (in a way, being traditionally "gay" is kinda boring to most, and that's a good thing, IMO). It'll be a thing some individuals truly are, and something some experiment with.
quote:
Until you start medicating and slicing, of course. That is the reason that I absolutely do not support medicating or slicing minor children.
Agreed. Those kinds of decisions need to at least mirror the age of consent, IMO.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:00 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
transgender
Doesn't exist
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:01 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:I admit that I really do waffle on this point.
Until you start medicating and slicing, of course. That is the reason that I absolutely do not support medicating or slicing minor children.quote:
Agreed. Those kinds of decisions need to at least mirror the age of consent, IMO.
One week, I feel there should be no physical transition whatsoever until the age of majority.
Then, a few weeks later, I see some kid who is 14 or 15 years old, and is obviously either very gay or very transgender. You kind of want to let him have those puberty blockers, so he doesn’t end up being a transgender woman with the physical features of a linebacker.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:01 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Good looking brood. I suspect the little girls in kindergarten are already chasing that boy.
They are
Quattro is oblivious, but he's always got a gaggle of 3 or 4 girls following him around and making him annoyed. Told him he'll think it's fun one day 
quote:
It looks to me like your daughter has Belle’s face shape, and that boy looks like a mocha version of you.
Brightness is the spitting image of her mom, just different hair/eye color. It's crazy. And she purposefully mimics some of Aggiebelle's facial expressions/mannerisms to get what she wants from me
Quattro favors me a little more than Aggiebelle, but his body type/demeanor are actually shades of my brother-in-law. Lanky guy about 3 years younger than Aggiebelle, about 6'2 or 6'3" and a prolific soccer player. Quattro is definitely gonna be taller than me haha. I gotta get my W's against him now!
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:03 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
and is obviously either very gay or very transgender.
You actually believe this , hahahahhahahah
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:05 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
doesn’t end up being a transgender woman with the physical features of a linebacker.
If that's truly who they are, the physical features shouldn't matter. Purposefully altering the hormonal development of a minor in that manner should absolutely be viewed as macabre. They don't have the mental capacity to make such calls, "obviously" gay or otherwise. If we say they are, then we have to also modify the age of consent (meaning the teachers currently viewed as preying on 14/15 year olds would suddenly be in the clear from child predator status).
Gotta make age of consent the hard line, or modify the age of consent. Can't logically have both.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:10 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:It really depends of depends upon how you define your terms, doesn’t it?
You actually believe this , hahahahhahahah
I certainly do not buy the nonsense about being “a woman born into a man’s body,“ or vice versa. It doesn’t work that way.
Bt contrast, whether through genetics or the hormonal environment in utero or some combination, there’s absolutely no question that some kids with male genitalia end up outside the male norm in a number of ways, and closer to the female norm. The same is true for some female children approaching the male norm.
To pretend those children/people do not exist is the stick one’s head in the sand.
At that point, the question is what is the best thing to do for those folks? I suspect that your approach is to try to force a square peg into a round hole, in every instance.
For some, that may be the best approach. For others, a bit of carving might be the best solution. I doubt that there is a one size fits all resolution.
Life is always going to be difficult for people in that situation. It seems to me that the best we can do is try to help them find a way in which to lead a reasonably normal and reasonably happy life.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:11 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:And I agree … about half the time.
Gotta make age of consent the hard line, or modify the age of consent. Can't logically have both.
To be clear, I am not saying that it should be the unilateral decision of the minor child. Obviously, the parents would have to be on board.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:24 pm to AggieHank86
The sickos have been busy in this thread.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:37 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I am not saying that it should be the unilateral decision of the minor child. Obviously, the parents would have to be on board.
That makes it worse. Parents should bally well know better. If they'd make such a decision regarding their child, CPS needs to be involved. Hard line on that for me. Child abuse.
Page 13 of 22
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News