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re: Judge calls election lawsuit ‘baseless,’ orders Kari Lake, Mark Finchem to pay court fees
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:54 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:54 pm to David_DJS
I was at that game. Had just moved to AZ as a travel RN
If I remember correctly…they also had given free tickets to the game to people that had been relocated to AZ after losing their homes in Katrina
If I remember correctly…they also had given free tickets to the game to people that had been relocated to AZ after losing their homes in Katrina
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:56 pm to oklahogjr
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undermine public trust at a time of increasing disinformation about, and distrust in, the democratic process
quote:You mean, besides the fact that Arizonans supposedly just elected a woman so insecure in her own capacity that she even refused to debate her opponent once? You mean besides the fact their were a litany of documented irregularities in Maricopa? You mean besides the fact it took more than a week, not to declare a winner, but to simply count votes?
they want this because hypothetically they could have been cheated but have no evidence suggesting such basically.
A teacher is called out of a classroom during an exam by administration. In later grading the papers she finds 20 have identical answers. When she raises questions of cheating, and plans to ask classmates if they witnessed anything, school officials step in. They ask if she has proof aside from the coincidental similarity of the answers. She says that's why she wants to ask others who were present what they witnessed. School officials say, without more substantive proof, she is forbidden to pursue the issue further.
You DO NOT EVER instill confidence in a process by refusing to examine possible flaws or malfeasance. Not once EVER is confidence in an honest, fair result rendered that way. The judge is either corrupt, or a mental invalid.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:59 pm to lsunurse
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I was at that game.
The ball was moving in Doucet's hands. That TD shouldn't have counted. Devils won that game, but nobody listened to me when I demanded an audit.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:27 pm to oklahogjr
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The Arizona voting process is actually pretty well documented and publicly available on their government website. It's pretty solid and the more research you do into the process the more you'll see why this sky screaming about voter fraud is all a political show....a very very dangerous one.
I neglected to mention that standard audits have 2 distinct phases that are relevant here:
* study of the policies for compliance to standards and/or laws
* check that the work was executed as per previously studied policies.
So the policies being well designed and documented is only half of the matter. The ones responsible for execution of said policies need to be available to demonstrate faithful adherence.
Risk limiting audits and recounts really don't do the job. Again, it doesn't instill confidence to get pushback when asking questions or raising concerns. If I were a SOS in 2020 I'd have taken it as my responsibility to open everything up and demonstrate quality work even if not asked. Large parts of many constituencies were casting doubt, seems like you'd want to get ahead of it. That's just basic public service IMHO. If you were a vendor to a company and said company was concerned, you would have to show your work and calm them else you would lose your contracts. Somehow public service is different, doesn't make sense.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:19 pm to lsunurse
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Oh that guy? That dude came off nuts.
There was several others. Two older ladies that worked polling stations talked until their two minutes were up.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:29 pm to loogaroo
So Lake was 4% up in the polls which typically underestimate Republican performance, but she loses. Voting went smoothly when dems generally vote throughout early voting, but on election day when a lot more Republicans tend to vote, there were massive problems making voting very difficult at around half of the precincts.
That judge should be impeached.
That judge should be impeached.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:35 pm to BamaAtl
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Perfectly fine, because they have contingencies in place for this and those voters were offered a chance to have their votes counted regardless of the mechanical failure.
I can only imagine what you would be saying if half of heavily black dem precincts in Atlanta had this happen to them.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:36 pm to Auburn1968
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That judge should be impeached.
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:42 pm to Auburn1968
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there were massive problems making voting very difficult at around half of the precincts
It doesn't help the argument when we keep making shite up or repeating shite others have made up.
It was not "very difficult" to vote at "around half" of the precincts. Tell me where I'm wrong here but based on what I've read, seen and heard -
-There were printer/tabulator issues at just under 70 voting centers ... that's out of 223 voting centers in the county.
-There were minimum 2 tabulators at each voting center, so if one machine was malfunctioning when you scanned your ballot, you could get in line for the other machine.
-Another option if your tabulator didn't accept your ballot was to drop it in a Box 3, which would be counted at election central.
-The only voting center that ever reported a wait of over 2 hours for a substantial period of time was Anthem. Otherwise, there were few voting centers that had more than a 30 minute wait and nearly half were zero to under 20 mins for most of the day.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:55 pm to David_DJS
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There were printer/tabulator issues at just under 70 voting centers ... that's out of 223 voting centers in the county.
You're right on the count. How many long lines and screwed up deep red precincts does it take to shave a percentage point?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:01 pm to Auburn1968
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You're right on the count. How many long lines and screwed up deep red precincts does it take to shave a percentage point?
There weren't long lines.
Name the deep red precincts, because Maricopa county is pretty much red outside of Phoenix. And to be clear, Phoenix accounts for about a third of Maricopa county.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:06 pm to loogaroo
That guy definitely gets extra soy
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:11 pm to David_DJS
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There weren't long lines.
So they were lying?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:12 pm to David_DJS
Hours-Long Wait Times, Massive Line in Maricopa County GOP Stronghold After Vote Machines Malfunction
There's video, lots of video on YouTube that hasn't been scrubbed. Of course, dems would never stoop to instigating such things.
https://www.westernjournal.com/hours-long-wait-times-massive-line-maricopa-county-gop-stronghold-vote-machines-malfunction/
There's video, lots of video on YouTube that hasn't been scrubbed. Of course, dems would never stoop to instigating such things.
https://www.westernjournal.com/hours-long-wait-times-massive-line-maricopa-county-gop-stronghold-vote-machines-malfunction/
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:19 pm to Auburn1968
All that article says is that one polling place in Anthem had a long line with a 2 hour wait.
The same polling location the other poster already mentioned.
The same polling location the other poster already mentioned.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:19 pm to Auburn1968
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Hours-Long Wait Times, Massive Line in Maricopa County GOP Stronghold After Vote Machines Malfunction
There's video, lots of video on YouTube that hasn't been scrubbed. Of course
Did you read my post above where I said that outside of Anthem, there were no unusually long lines?
You just posted a report that embedded 3 videos of long lines ... each one from Anthem.
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dems would never stoop to instigating such things.
Do you understand who runs elections in Maricopa county, and who staffs that Anthem voting center?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:20 pm to David_DJS
I mean…it’s freaking Anthem after all , it’s a shite show place to begin with
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:56 pm to NC_Tigah
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You mean, besides the fact that Arizonans supposedly just elected a woman so insecure in her own capacity that she even refused to debate her opponent once? You mean besides the fact their were a litany of documented irregularities in Maricopa? You mean besides the fact it took more than a week, not to declare a winner, but to simply count votes?
So basically you didn't like the candidate she couldn't have won. You don't trust the system?
Tell me how long have you been in Arizona and would you say you're representative of the typical zonie?
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