re: Judge calls election lawsuit ‘baseless,’ orders Kari Lake, Mark Finchem to pay court fees

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I'm not sure what the SOS could do different here. They're following the laws set forth to hold the election. Pushing people to follow the process and uphold their duties. They've made the information available on process and duties to the public vis the web.

I'd love them to do a walk through of a vote lifecycle or something so people understood it but hey it's out there if you want to read at least.

There wasn't really anything to show with lake lawsuit. They didn't have any evidence of fraud.

With the Cochise guys was the same thing they didn't have a leg to stand on.

The system can't be answer every baseless fraud claim. And anyone claiming fraud without evidence should be ashamed. If evidence is presented i think it would be actioned on and has in the past when fraud was uncovered

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I do appreciate the conversation we are having. Sounds like you are pretty familiar with elections in your area as I am with mine. Unfortunately on my end, the process in Louisiana isn't really presented in any clear format. Maybe somewhere it is, but I have not seen it. I had to read a lot of content and talk to the SOS dept a bit to understand it. I even made a crappy video on rumble to explain it bc I wanted ppl to understand and get involved and make more meaningful criticisms. I will say that after all that, the election process in Louisiana is pretty legit. It is very simple and streamlined and if the effort was made to present the process, it would be relatively easy to understand. There are holes though that could be shored up.

Maybe I see where you are coming from as to not knowing what the SOS could do different. Will have to think more on it. I also agree that it would be fantastic to have a voting cycle walkthrough, actually thought of that before. A friend and I discussed making a civics presentation to go through this kind of content.

One thing that remains unchanged though is that the process needs to be crazy transparent and verifiable to some extent by the layman. Maybe directly after an election it would be hard, but perhaps that is a symptom of the problem. Somewhat verifiable to the layman could mean different things. Over here we have machine summary reports that are signed in triplicate at the precinct and delivered to different locations. These reports are accessible to the voter. With these reports, it matters none how the votes leave the precinct as long as the results (which are available at sos.la.gov) match the reports. Does Arizona have anything comparable? Ballots to me are useless bc I will never see them, and even if I did, I could never make good use of them. Sadly, our processes are about to change and I fear we may lose these precinct reports. Sounds like we are moving to tabulation centers. That to me is no good at all. You can not make any useful sense of things at that level. The lowest level should be the precinct.

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A friend and I discussed making a civics presentation to go through this kind of content.

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The struggle is you have 50 different workflows around the country in mind. Makes this all very complicated to figure out as everyone's got their own nuisances.

Part of the problem is people just aren't interested though. I mean they are in theory but how many of those upset will volunteer to help next election cycle? How many are interested in knowing the full system ins and outs? It's unfortunate but most folks don't care. Which i think is why you it's not as transparent and laid out as everyone wants.


Arizona offers like email and text updates on ballot status as well as provide a voter portal with information.

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To view your voter information including registration status, election districts, notices, ballot-by-mail status, and voting history, access the Arizona Voter Information Portal at my.arizona.vote or by clicking the link below.

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There are other procedures around tabulation and adjudication paperwork as well and machine testing pre and post count. Most of that is available for live stream by the county board of supervisors. As well as access to reports and the paperwork trails.

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It's not brain surgery to figure out. You can see it if you really try

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But that’s not how it works where it matters. We’re never going to find satisfaction before we find real and compelling evidence.

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The struggle is you have 50 different workflows around the country in mind. Makes this all very complicated to figure out as everyone's got their own nuisances.

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Louisiana is statewide the same, so that was another nice feature. Learn it once and you are good.

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Why were they covering the counting windows during the 2020 election?

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You mean in Detroit?

That never happened. Some Trumper saw the posters on the windows and made that crap up. Then idiots you you repeated it.

Those windows separated the main counting area (where you needed credentials to get in) from the area where the general public was standing. NO poll watchers were looking thru those windows. They were INSIDE the main hall.

There were 130 counting tables in the main hall. Do you think poll watchers could be watching 130 tables from behind that glass.

This is the kind of stupid crap that dolts like you believed and why it was so easy for Trump to stir up the masses with nothing but thin air.