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So McCarthy is saying that unless the GOP votes correctly, the DEMS will have the speaker

Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:19 pm
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Several top conservatives are warning that if House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy, the Republican nominee for Speaker of the House, does not win the speakership election on the floor of the House on Jan. 3, 2023, a “doomsday scenario” could emerge where Democrats undercut GOP power.



The Speaker must get 218 votes and the dems and the GOP will present their nominee.

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Given the slim majority that Republicans hold in the new Congress—they have won 222 seats—a group of five or more Republicans banding together to vote for someone other than McCarthy–assuming all other members are present and voting for a person–could deny him the majority he needs to win the gavel.







The House will keep holding speakership elections until such time as it elects a speaker until 218 is reached.


LINK

I believe there are about 20 firm "no" votes so far.


This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 2:20 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101660 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:21 pm to
If the Dems get the Soeaker with a minority of the House, anyone voting for the Dem should be drawn and quartered.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
23341 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:23 pm to
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If the Dems get the Soeaker with a minority of the House, anyone voting for the Dem should be drawn and quartered.



It's the Republicans though. I could see it happening. If a bald eagle holding a crucifix and wrapped in an American flag ran, he'd go ham on these motherfrickers.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:23 pm to
Leave it to the GOP to be fricking morons
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101660 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:25 pm to
Hell, name James Woods as Speaker.

Test that argument that the Speaker is not required to be a member of the House.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86428 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:26 pm to
I'm ok with it. You essentially get a Dem with a RINO anyway so at the very least they would know they can't frick around any longer.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107671 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

I believe there are about 20 firm "no" votes so far.


pretty sure those NOs would also vote against a DEM.

So, unless there are some shithead Republicans that will vote for a Dem speaker, this won't happen.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
49454 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:28 pm to
Looks like this is the new tactic of the GOPe: outright blatant collusion with Democrat Party on a formal level.

The Republicans just did something similar in Alaska when a majority of them formed a coalition with Democrats to isolate and marginalize newly elected Republicans that refused to bow down to the GOPe and the way things had always been done.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101660 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:29 pm to
If McCarthy knows he has no shot of winning it, I could see him whipping a faction to vote Dem as a “frick you” then claiming he had nothing to do with it.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51240 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:29 pm to
What McCarthy is saying is, "If an establishment R can't be speaker we will give it to our Uniparty partners.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25771 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

So McCarthy is saying that unless the GOP votes correctly, the DEMS will have the speaker



No, he isn't saying that at all.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
49454 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

So, unless there are some shithead Republicans that will vote for a Dem speaker, this won't happen.


I’m sure there are some.

A lot of them were just purged in the election but some remain.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
13813 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

pretty sure those NOs would also vote against a DEM.

So, unless there are some shithead Republicans that will vote for a Dem speaker, this won't happen.



I'm 100% positive that if there is a way for the Republicans to mess this up they WILL.

This is what I mean when I say they lead from a position of weakness.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:38 pm to
That's what this homo is threatening, yes.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132616 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:39 pm to
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When Democrats are in power, they do everything to maximize their power and minimize the influence of their Republican opposition. However, when Republicans are in power, they do everything to minimize their power and maximize the power of their Democrat opposition, now in the minority. Democrats in control, they maximize the Overton Window shift. When Republicans are in power, they do nothing to pull it back – they actually do everything possible to maintain the shift.


LINK
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54670 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

So, unless there are some shithead Republicans that will vote for a Dem speaker, this won't happen.



Yes it would. There's been 3 so far saying they would work with the DEMS to nominate a "moderate" dem. One is from Nebraska
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107671 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

quote:
So, unless there are some shithead Republicans that will vote for a Dem speaker, this won't happen.



Yes it would. There's been 3 so far saying they would work with the DEMS to nominate a "moderate" dem. One is from Nebraska


ergo, there appear to be at least 3

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shithead Republicans
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
25982 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

So McCarthy is saying that unless the GOP votes correctly, the DEMS will have the speaker

That isn't accurate. The Speaker will be a republican. Maybe just not McCarthy. That isn't going to result in a democratic speaker, just someone who is perhaps a bit more moderate and effective.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:51 pm to
Elections have consequences, maybe letting the Dems get it will hasten the destruction of the GOP.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27776 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:52 pm to
Scalise is the #2 guy. If McCarthy can't get the votes, everyone will fall in line with Scalise. I'm ok with that.

Actually, I prefer Scalise.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 2:54 pm
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