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Dave Aranda: proof that the common fan just looks for the flavor of the month
Posted on 11/13/22 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/13/22 at 11:39 am
If Baylor was having a great year, his name would be all over this board like it was last year.
Give me a guy that has proven again and again that he has taken a bad situation and made it better.
A great head coach is elite at these 3 things, very few have all 3, but in your search you must find 2 and a strategy for the 3rd. 1) culture. 2) recruiting. 3) scheme
Give me a guy that has proven again and again that he has taken a bad situation and made it better.
A great head coach is elite at these 3 things, very few have all 3, but in your search you must find 2 and a strategy for the 3rd. 1) culture. 2) recruiting. 3) scheme
Posted on 11/13/22 at 11:53 am to Springlake Tiger
Also proof that stars matter.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 11:58 am to Springlake Tiger
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Dave Aranda: proof that the common fan just looks for the flavor of the month
Aranda has shown his intelligence since before he was even hired at LSU
Aranda's biggest issue is being at Baylor and recruiting. What was the big potential knock on Kelly coming from ND? Recruiting.
Aranda is one of the smartest CFB minds out there. I'm sure he understands the value of recruiting and would create a recruiting-first staff just like Kelly if he were hired here.
I don't worry about culture with either.
Aranda has the superior mind/scheme.
The question is who can hire the best recruiting staff. Kelly has done a lot better than even die hard LSU fans would have thought a year ago. The variable we don't have is what Aranda would do.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
He won with Rhule's guys. Now he's in year 3 and having to start to win with his guys. He's a good (but not great) defensive mind who's probably better suited for being a coordinator.
If you're truly cut out to be a great head coach, you get it done year in and year out for the most part, regardless of where you are. And then that's what gets you a head coaching job at an elite place like LSU.
If you're truly cut out to be a great head coach, you get it done year in and year out for the most part, regardless of where you are. And then that's what gets you a head coaching job at an elite place like LSU.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:35 pm to Springlake Tiger
I have zero tolerance for tFolder slander
Actually fight me
Actually fight me
Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:12 pm to S
Same.
Dude is 6-4 at fricking Baylor.
A year after winning the Big 12 title and all of a sudden he's asswater?
frick outta here
Dude is 6-4 at fricking Baylor.
A year after winning the Big 12 title and all of a sudden he's asswater?
frick outta here
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:00 pm to Domeskeller
You do know Kelly went like 4-8 in his 7th season at ND? It wasn't his first losing season either.
Dave is in his 3rd season as a HC (counting the COVID year).
Dave is in his 3rd season as a HC (counting the COVID year).
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:46 pm to Springlake Tiger
I’d still take him at AU in a Waco minute.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:21 pm to Domeskeller
quote:
If you're truly cut out to be a great head coach, you get it done year in and year out for the most part, regardless of where you are. And then that's what gets you a head coaching job at an elite place like LSU.
I'm going to punt you in the pussy.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:27 pm to Springlake Tiger
Baylor wasn't expected to be very good this year. They lost a lot of talent from last year. This thread is dumb.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:48 pm to wilceaux
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Baylor wasn't expected to be very good this year. They lost a lot of talent from last year.
I don't think Dave sucks now but they were preseason top 10 and favored to win the conference.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:05 pm to saintsfan22
Preseason rankings are worth less than the time it took me to type this.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:19 pm to VaeVictus
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Preseason rankings are worth less than the time it took me to type this.
Sure but they are also definitive proof of preseason expectations.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:22 pm to VaeVictus
quote:AP Preseason Poll:
Preseason rankings are worth less than the time it took me to type this.
#6 TAMU
#9 Oklahoma
#10 Baylor
#15 Michigan St
#16 Miami
#18 Wisky
#19 Arky
#20 Kentucky
#26 Tennessee
#30 LSU
#39 UNC
#46 UCLA
NR (0 votes) TCU
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:56 pm to FearlessFreep
We all know Dave is a great coach. We all know he will be a great culture and X and Os guy. However, the jury is still out on him as a recruiter. That’s not a knock on him, or me saying that he can’t do it. We just haven’t seen him try to even recruit as well as possible at Baylor yet. Maybe that will change in the future, but he hasn’t made a move up yet.
SFP mentioned Kelly, but that’s not a good comparison at all. He was pulling consistent top 10-15 classes at ND. Aranda isn’t doing that yet, and maybe that’s because of where he is, but we don’t know that yet. Some coaches don’t want to play the games necessary to be big time recruiters, even grading on a curve for where they are. A prime example is Dan Mullen. UF fans just assumed he would magically flip a switch and go bigger once he got there and it didn’t really happen. He just wasn’t interested in doing what it took to be a top-tier SEC recruiter.
Where Kelly might be a good analogy for Aranda is seeing how he’s adapted to focus more on recruiting here than he did at ND. The warnings that he was a “lazy recruiter” and that he wouldn’t care and hire the staff necessary were completely unfounded. If and when Aranda takes a step up to a bigger program, it is possible he does the same. But it’s not certain.
I’m sure he would have to address that with any school he interviews for and any SEC program will want up-front commitments on recruiting. Auburn would especially after the way Harsin didn’t give a shite about getting to even a base SEC level.
SFP mentioned Kelly, but that’s not a good comparison at all. He was pulling consistent top 10-15 classes at ND. Aranda isn’t doing that yet, and maybe that’s because of where he is, but we don’t know that yet. Some coaches don’t want to play the games necessary to be big time recruiters, even grading on a curve for where they are. A prime example is Dan Mullen. UF fans just assumed he would magically flip a switch and go bigger once he got there and it didn’t really happen. He just wasn’t interested in doing what it took to be a top-tier SEC recruiter.
Where Kelly might be a good analogy for Aranda is seeing how he’s adapted to focus more on recruiting here than he did at ND. The warnings that he was a “lazy recruiter” and that he wouldn’t care and hire the staff necessary were completely unfounded. If and when Aranda takes a step up to a bigger program, it is possible he does the same. But it’s not certain.
I’m sure he would have to address that with any school he interviews for and any SEC program will want up-front commitments on recruiting. Auburn would especially after the way Harsin didn’t give a shite about getting to even a base SEC level.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 11/14/22 at 2:56 pm to Springlake Tiger
It's not just that for Aranda.
He was a popular pick for AU people, before the articles came out about him being kind of a recluse at Baylor and how great of a fit it was for him. Given our issues with boosters and "fit" - I think that probably had more impact on our view of him as a candidate than Baylor's record.
He was a popular pick for AU people, before the articles came out about him being kind of a recluse at Baylor and how great of a fit it was for him. Given our issues with boosters and "fit" - I think that probably had more impact on our view of him as a candidate than Baylor's record.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:21 pm to Springlake Tiger
Well Aranda beat a good Oklahoma State team in the Championship year 2 after COVID raped the world. That’s a sign of fantastic coaching during that time when so many things are going on.
Last week they got smoked but definitely not indicative of how well they have played as a “team” most of the season minus there record which doesn’t reflect.
Look Baylor is Baylor winning consistently up there probably isn’t gonna happen often anyway.
Aranda has done a really nice job and I personally wasn’t sure he was a Head Coach based off personality.
Glad I was wrong.
Last week they got smoked but definitely not indicative of how well they have played as a “team” most of the season minus there record which doesn’t reflect.
Look Baylor is Baylor winning consistently up there probably isn’t gonna happen often anyway.
Aranda has done a really nice job and I personally wasn’t sure he was a Head Coach based off personality.
Glad I was wrong.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:39 pm to FearlessFreep
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AP Preseason Poll:
The Preseason polls are based on the previous season always were always will be.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:26 am to FearlessFreep
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I’d still take him at AU in a Waco minute.
Then why hasn't Auburn and others haven't mention him being one of the top targets?
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