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re: Big Oil Is Not Dancing To Government Tunes. Period.

Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:57 am to
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3082 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:57 am to
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Not bad for 3 months. No need to “dance” when you’re gouging American motorists.


Y'all should propose some more regulations to suppress supply and some more taxes on producers. Surely that will reduce the price for American motorists.
Posted by Highthoughts
Member since Sep 2022
313 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:58 am to
you have to have hydrocarbons for alot of things, sure.

your article itself states oil companies are completely content pocketing profits and not reinvesting them.

the only industries that do that are industries with no expanding future.

A day is coming where there is diesel for towing and necessary byproducts and commuter cars are electric.

Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27479 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:59 am to
Jimmy Carter must be happy knowing he is no longer viewed as the most incompetent president of the modern era.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14034 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:00 am to
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commuter cars are electric.



This isn't viable for numerous reasons. At least not in the next 20 years if not never. Electric isn't the answer.

What fuels the plants?

What do you do with old batteries that can't be recycled?

What is going to drive the market to make electric recharging stations?

Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11489 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:03 am to
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President Biden over the weekend told New Yorkers at a rally that he was still going to end drilling and fracking on Federal Lands.


When people tell me it is Markets and Cyclical and not Biden, I laugh.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11489 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:05 am to
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What do you do with old batteries that can't be recycled?


What do you do when you find out you are using non-renewable resources to create the batteries and electricity?

Lithium Mining
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2020 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:09 am to
The first world is pulling the ladder out from the developing nations. Petrol is the cheapest fastest way for these nations to climb the standard of living.


I guess in DJford's world, it's the oil co's that are screwing californians worse than anywhere else.
Posted by Cousincleetus
Frisco, TX
Member since Feb 2015
120 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:11 am to
Clearly not
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:16 am to
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Per the FT, it is banks that want oil companies to keep returning cash to shareholders instead of investing it in new production.

Shareholders themselves would certainly agree: they spent years watching how much cash was poured into relentless production growth and then they saw prices go negative, even though it was only for a little while. The price crash of 2020 was very real and very painful.



Everyone in the industry remembers how many companies went bankrupt and how many colleagues lost jobs between 2014-2021 with relentless production growth. It basically took that bloodletting to remind people the point of running a business - free cash flow.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8971 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:39 am to
Some policy makers want to impose a windfall profits tax on energy companies.

They conveniently forget the US oil & gas industry lost $300 billion over the last decade.


Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1175 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:45 am to
Why invest in future production capacity or even replace aging capacity if the government is committed to eliminating your industry? It takes years to build and bring on line a refinery. Why would anyone sink money into a plant that will never operate?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37185 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:46 am to
It's insanely frustrating how so many people still beleive Biden is right.

Basic economics is not hard... and yet 75% of Americans know so little of it that they can so easily be misled.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67223 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:48 am to
Governments keep telling oil companies and banks that they don’t want oil being used in the future. Who wants to invest in an industry that’s being forcibly phased out?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20482 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:54 am to
so, you have no understanding of supply and demand economics?
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8971 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:55 am to
Biden: "I'm a capitalist... but" then proceeds to slam Exxon for making a profit for successfully keeping the US supplied with refined products despite crushing government regulations.

Also, here is AAPL vs XOM net income

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:59 am to
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Some policy makers want to impose a windfall profits tax on energy companies.


Would end up decreasing production. I honestly think it’s a completely dishonest midterm stratagem that will never happen.

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They conveniently forget the US oil & gas industry lost $300 billion over the last decade.


Due. to horrible mismanagement.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:11 am to
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Not bad for 3 months. No need to “dance” when you’re gouging American motorists.


anyone ever told you how ignorant you are?
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8350 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:12 am to
I believe there was a Bloomberg article about a meeting Granholm and other administration officials including Deese with oil executives. Contentious. Lasted 30 minutes. Granholm browbeat the execs and wanted to know their strategy for cheap oil and gas. Oil execs stated they would not give out their strategies in a room with their competitors. Also, that’s a violation of antitrust laws.

This administration is the most corrupt in my lifetime.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3019 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:12 am to
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when so called renewables don't satisfy the needs we are stuck with lower refinery means


This is what Europe is currently experiencing and Joe wants that here in the US.

He's actually said that, if you pay attention, to his comments about not caring about the US economy.

Biden knows what Obama is having him do. He is also aware of the outcomes it is doing to the US economy. This is where the media comes into play to run interference and have the blame be placed on everyone but Obama and Joe.
Posted by uptiger1997
Member since Sep 2022
209 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:13 am to
Calling the oil industry a free market is one of the most dishonest things they've ever said about themselves. Not with those trillions in subsidies.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 10:14 am
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