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Protecting Net Worth (Assets) against Liability. Parental Liability ?

Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27929 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:27 pm
After reading the OT Post about the kid in the Range Rover running over and killing the guy, I worry about my own teen who's about to start driving.

I've recently inherited some cash, land etc etc and with what I've worked for my Net Worth is 500K + (not rich but it's my retirement plus college fund if needed).

I'd hate to lose it over one stupid mistake

What do people do in this situation to protect themselves against someone suing them since the kid obviously has no money.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1360 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:30 pm to
I would think an umbrella policy would be a good idea.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4891 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:54 pm to
Second umbrella policy. More people should have them, it doesn’t cost much but you’ll have to have upper limits on your other insurance. Check with your agent.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12279 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:08 pm to
Umbrella is the way. When we had the gun store nobody would touch me with an umbrella but before that it was pretty cheap for millions in limits.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29308 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:24 pm to
I may get shite for saying it, but life insurance is a good way to protect cash from things like you're suggesting.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6447 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:11 pm to
Umbrella as mentioned.

Not sure about teenage years as I assume minors will have a different standing vs someone over 18, but anecdotally relating to your question, in college I was involved in an at fault wreck. I was sued and my dad was sued as well in attempt to collect past insurance limits.

My dad was easily dropped from the lawsuit. While my dad technically owned the vehicle and even paid insurance for it, I think it's harder to find the non driver owner of a vehicle liable unless certain conditions are met.

After my dad's suit was dropped, they subsequently dropped mine as well, because I was poor college student with no assets.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

life insurance


The Rodney Dangerfield of financial products.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26045 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:42 pm to
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My dad was easily dropped from the lawsuit. While my dad technically owned the vehicle and even paid insurance for it, I think it's harder to find the non driver owner of a vehicle liable unless certain conditions are met.


All of this is state specific.

In Georgia, insurance follows the vehicle and the dad is not getting off of the lawsuit when the insurance is exhausted.

Attorneys don't make money by not suing somebody. And that wouldn't be the Georgia way.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82059 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:51 pm to
When yall say pretty cheap, what do you mean? The only time I've looked at an umbrella is was a couple thousand for just $1 million.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25204 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:05 pm to
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The only time I've looked at an umbrella is was a couple thousand for just $1 million.
Thats high….unless you had multiple teenage drivers and/or some incidents on driving record

ETA: usually sub-$1000 for most people. Obviously having more exposures (boats, jet skis, motorcycles, RV’s, multiple properties) or more drivers/vehicles then it’ll drive umbrella rates up
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:10 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29308 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:08 pm to
quote:


The Rodney Dangerfield of financial products.


Was Rodney Dangerfield protected from creditors? I know a lot of smart and wealthy people that park cash in life insurance to protect it.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82059 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:22 pm to
Nope, was just me and my wife with no fancy toys. It was just something I ran through my car insurance app and didn't actively shop. I guess I should look around for something cheaper
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2920 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:33 pm to
Looks like in TX your homestead, retirement accounts, 529s, and $60k personal property are protected assets.

What assets are protected in TX
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:40 pm to
I’ve gotten $1M in coverage for a few hundred bucks.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3354 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 3:16 am to
Umbrella policy is a good plan. Also consider putting assets in a trust that you and your wife manage.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4891 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:07 am to
I’ve got $1m for like $330/yr through travelers
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45190 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:13 am to
I'm an asset protection attorney. It all depends on your state's laws. My state (Florida) has awesome asset protection laws and we can typically structure assets so that they are completely protected.

And yes, I see parents getting sued all the time when their kids get into an accident
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 6:15 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20812 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:17 am to
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The only time I've looked at an umbrella is was a couple thousand for just $1 million.

$3M for $465/yr
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:20 am to
quote:

Was Rodney Dangerfield protected from creditors? I know a lot of smart and wealthy people that park cash in life insurance to protect it.



You didn't get the joke. Life insurance, especially cash value life insurance, gets no respect.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21465 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:32 am to
Umbrella is the way to go. I have a $5M umbrella for under $1,000 annually
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