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re: Now that Training Camp is here...what are your roster concerns going into the season?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:35 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:35 pm to Fun Bunch
1) Health (like all the teams)
2) No real point guard (i hope CJ can be a point full time but hard to change a style of play at 31)
3) Defense overall
4) 3 pts shooting (especially with Zion who will attack the rim more of 95% of time i guess)
2) No real point guard (i hope CJ can be a point full time but hard to change a style of play at 31)
3) Defense overall
4) 3 pts shooting (especially with Zion who will attack the rim more of 95% of time i guess)
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:37 pm to CelticDog
Yeah, if we can figure out how to defend the PnR. We be in a great spot.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:08 pm to Fun Bunch
Biggest concern is how do BI and Zion mesh? Last time we saw them together they played point zion which I don't think BI particularly liked. "Concern" may not be the best word for it though. I'm just very interested to see how we make it work.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:26 pm to Fun Bunch
My main concern for the regular season is the same a yours, backup guard. If CJ goes down for any period of time I don’t think that we will fare well during that time.
My main concern for playoff basketball is rim protection, we really don’t have a viable rim protector on the roster and that could/would be exploited come playoff time.
My main concern for playoff basketball is rim protection, we really don’t have a viable rim protector on the roster and that could/would be exploited come playoff time.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:39 am to TigerinATL
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I'd say what our "center by committee" is missing is a good rebounding, blue collar big. Tristan Thompson, Hassan Whiteside, Boogie, and Dwight Howard are all unsigned and I wouldn't be shocked if at least 2-3 of them stay unsigned until later in the season waiting for a playoff team to pick them up down the stretch.
That's my view as well. We could use a Derrick Favors (Utah Derrick Favors, not shitty Pelicans Derrick Favors) type of big.
Screen setter, rebound getter.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:01 am to Sheep
Yeah I'd say a few things, in no particular order
1. Defensive minded back up big for blocks and rebounds for different rotations
2. Health ALWAYS
3. Possibly another back up PG to help facilitate
4. Managing the minutes and rotations will probably be rough early on, but hopefully Willie finds the right balance.
I'm actually not worried about the 3 point shooting. I think we will be top 10 there due to the amount of space we can create open shots with the guys we have.
1. Defensive minded back up big for blocks and rebounds for different rotations
2. Health ALWAYS
3. Possibly another back up PG to help facilitate
4. Managing the minutes and rotations will probably be rough early on, but hopefully Willie finds the right balance.
I'm actually not worried about the 3 point shooting. I think we will be top 10 there due to the amount of space we can create open shots with the guys we have.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:32 am to CelticDog
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nothing to write home about as shooter.. just a guy as they say.
CJ???? The guy with a career average of 39.6% on 5.9 attempts per game over his 9 season career???
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:04 am to NOFOX
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CJ???? The guy with a career average of 39.6% on 5.9 attempts per game over his 9 season career???
I've seen this retarded take here before, not sure if it was from him or not but it's a terrible take.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:43 am to Fun Bunch
My only concern is H E A L T H!
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:09 am to Broski
quote:Yep. Shooting was our biggest negative last season and I'm not sure we really did anything to improve in that area. Hopefully some of the guys already on the team will improve.
Shooting
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:17 am to StrongOffer
Shooting was a negative last season when your primary shooting attack outside of Ingram was coming from NAW, Hart, Graham, Temple, Lewis, and Satoranky.
We looked much better towards the end of the year and even better once Murphy got inserted back into the rotation. We might not be an elite 3 ball team this upcoming season but I have no doubt we’ll be much better than last season.
We looked much better towards the end of the year and even better once Murphy got inserted back into the rotation. We might not be an elite 3 ball team this upcoming season but I have no doubt we’ll be much better than last season.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:17 am to StrongOffer
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Yep. Shooting was our biggest negative last season and I'm not sure we really did anything to improve in that area. Hopefully some of the guys already on the team will improve.
Jose will be a better shooter this year.
CJ and BI will get more open looks with Zion back.
Trey should be lights out now with a little experience.
Graham can't get worse and maybe will be better with more catch and shoot opps.
Herb hopefully takes a step forward.
Any and all or none of those things may happen, but I feel pretty good that at least some will.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:30 am to StrongOffer
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Yep. Shooting was our biggest negative last season and I'm not sure we really did anything to improve in that area.
I think a lot of you are being way too dismissive of the shooting we already have.
CJ & Trey are great to elite shooters.
Remember that BI was carrying the load by himself most of last year. Hopefully a lighter load lets BI return to his 38-39% from 3 he shot the first 2 years here.
If you dig into Devonte's numbers last year and going back to Charlotte, he's a good catch and shoot 3 point shooter, over 40%. He's shot so poorly here because he was taking too many pull up 3s. Coming off the bench playing off Point Zion should make him a good shooter again because it will force him to take more C&S 3s and fewer pull ups.
Jonas seems to be a good 3 point shooter if he's not rushed, which I don't think he will be with Zion drawing so much attention. I think he can shoot 38%+, he ended last season at 36% which is better than most stretch 5s not named KAT. Myles Turner, the "perfect fit" stretch 5 people have wanted the Pels to trade for since Zion was drafted shoots 34.9% from 3, and only 33% last year.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 11:34 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:34 am to TigerinATL
quote:will have several to many 30 point games
Trey
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:39 am to Fun Bunch
Our 3 PT% was dismal for how many we shot last year
If we're going to just jack them up then it better fricking going in. Looking at you Graham
If we're going to just jack them up then it better fricking going in. Looking at you Graham
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:43 pm to PhillyTiger90
Biggest concerns: backup SG and backup 4/5 that can shoot.
I think we are just fine at the 5 with JV/Nance and if JV gets hurt then Billy filling in. I think we'll see games where JV can be the difference maker down the stretch, and some game where Nance will. All depends on matchups.
What i think we are missing is a 4/5 that can actually shoot the 3 and be a threat from 3. Not sure if Trey is ready for that yet as a 5 defensively, but he might be the future for that. Do think we'll see him be Zion's main backup though, and he'll play the 3 as well if we go small with Zion/Nance at the 4/5.
This is why i want to trade Jax, b/c that's who he should be, but he's simply not. I'd be content with a simple swap of Jax for Zach Collins. I think Collins will end up being a good 3 point shooter, and i think he's better defensively. If we did nothing with Jax b/c we couldn't really get anything, then i'm fine not doing anything trade wise at the 4/5 position.
But i do think we need to do something at the backup SG position by the trade deadline.
And why i want to trade DG is b/c i would like to have a better scoring option off the bench than him, as well as defender b/c DG is a giant sieve on defense. I think we are lacking a legit backup SG. I think he'll do better this year from an efficiency standpoint b/c i expect him to take more open set shot 3's.
Really wish we would have tried to make a move for Alec Burks. NYK just gave him away to Detroit. I'm sure we could have swapped DG for Burks using some 2nds.
I'd like to hope that Dyson can be good enough defensively to get some meaningful minutes at the backup 2 with Jose, where they can both sort of share PG duties, but he'll need to be able to knock down open 3's and i'm not sure he can do that yet.
We've really only got 8 guys that you can honestly say are ready to play playoff basketball.
BI
Zion
JV
CJ
Herb
Trey
Jose
Nance
Outside of those 8 guys and Dyson, everyone else is replaceable at this time. I love Naji but we've seen enough of him to know what we are getting and his potential. He better watch out b/c John Butler might have his roster spot this time next year.
I think we are just fine at the 5 with JV/Nance and if JV gets hurt then Billy filling in. I think we'll see games where JV can be the difference maker down the stretch, and some game where Nance will. All depends on matchups.
What i think we are missing is a 4/5 that can actually shoot the 3 and be a threat from 3. Not sure if Trey is ready for that yet as a 5 defensively, but he might be the future for that. Do think we'll see him be Zion's main backup though, and he'll play the 3 as well if we go small with Zion/Nance at the 4/5.
This is why i want to trade Jax, b/c that's who he should be, but he's simply not. I'd be content with a simple swap of Jax for Zach Collins. I think Collins will end up being a good 3 point shooter, and i think he's better defensively. If we did nothing with Jax b/c we couldn't really get anything, then i'm fine not doing anything trade wise at the 4/5 position.
But i do think we need to do something at the backup SG position by the trade deadline.
And why i want to trade DG is b/c i would like to have a better scoring option off the bench than him, as well as defender b/c DG is a giant sieve on defense. I think we are lacking a legit backup SG. I think he'll do better this year from an efficiency standpoint b/c i expect him to take more open set shot 3's.
Really wish we would have tried to make a move for Alec Burks. NYK just gave him away to Detroit. I'm sure we could have swapped DG for Burks using some 2nds.
I'd like to hope that Dyson can be good enough defensively to get some meaningful minutes at the backup 2 with Jose, where they can both sort of share PG duties, but he'll need to be able to knock down open 3's and i'm not sure he can do that yet.
We've really only got 8 guys that you can honestly say are ready to play playoff basketball.
BI
Zion
JV
CJ
Herb
Trey
Jose
Nance
Outside of those 8 guys and Dyson, everyone else is replaceable at this time. I love Naji but we've seen enough of him to know what we are getting and his potential. He better watch out b/c John Butler might have his roster spot this time next year.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:53 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Do think we'll see him be Zion's main backup though
See I don’t know about this. Zion will create a lotta space for a guy like trey to kill from 3. I think we see zion on the court with trey a good bit.
And Alec Burk’s contract wouldn’t line up with DG’s.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:I'm hoping not as that'll take minutes away from Murphy and/or Nance.
Do think we'll see him be Zion's main backup though
If Jax gets the bulk of the Zion backup minutes, I don't really see much of an avenue for Trey or Nance to get to 20mpg, which I really hope they both do.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:27 pm to shel311
The lineup combinations are going to be interesting.
Didn't Zion and Jax actually play very well together?
Didn't Zion and Jax actually play very well together?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:45 pm to shel311
I'm not saying I don't think or want to see Trey with Zion on the court, simply that he'll be the backup 4 instead of Jax, on paper, but that we'll see him a good bit at the 3 with Zion at the 4 and Nance at the 5.
Like i said, we've got an 8 man playoff rotation. We'll see 10 guys play in the regular season, but the majority of the minutes are going to be with those 8 guys.
I know AD has talked about how seamless Zion has fit in with the starters, but I don't think anyone was worried about that, at least i wasn't. Zion is going to get his no matter if the offense runs through him or not. He's an active person off the ball and the second he gets the ball moving towards the basket he is going to score way more often than not. What i want to make sure of is that BI and CJ are given time to run their game without having to defer to Zion the majority of the time. BI never seemed to find his groove playing with Zion. Obviously he's going to have to and i worry less about that 2 years later now, but i think the more we can split their minutes up and let them each get their own, the better for the team. There should be very minimal minutes in a game where one of Zion or BI isn't on the court.
I know it was done more for health/injury reasons, but i like seeing Zion play more with the 2nd unit. The 2nd unit needs one of Zion/BI/CJ on the court with them anyway, and Zion is unstoppable against most starters, and just destroys 2nd teams.
Like i said, we've got an 8 man playoff rotation. We'll see 10 guys play in the regular season, but the majority of the minutes are going to be with those 8 guys.
I know AD has talked about how seamless Zion has fit in with the starters, but I don't think anyone was worried about that, at least i wasn't. Zion is going to get his no matter if the offense runs through him or not. He's an active person off the ball and the second he gets the ball moving towards the basket he is going to score way more often than not. What i want to make sure of is that BI and CJ are given time to run their game without having to defer to Zion the majority of the time. BI never seemed to find his groove playing with Zion. Obviously he's going to have to and i worry less about that 2 years later now, but i think the more we can split their minutes up and let them each get their own, the better for the team. There should be very minimal minutes in a game where one of Zion or BI isn't on the court.
I know it was done more for health/injury reasons, but i like seeing Zion play more with the 2nd unit. The 2nd unit needs one of Zion/BI/CJ on the court with them anyway, and Zion is unstoppable against most starters, and just destroys 2nd teams.
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