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re: Are the people that paid over asking price for homes getting a little nervous now?

Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
1080 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:17 pm to
I doubt prices go down that much.

Why?

Because inventory will stay low with everyone sitting on their rock bottom interest rates.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

The problem is when circumstances arise that make you cash out while the property is underwater.


Even then, you have to figure the opportunity cost of rent payments. I'm trying to time the market with purchasing a house in the next year; however I'm not going to lose my mind if it dips 50k or more right away because again, that's what 2 years of rent?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:18 pm to
Paid asking in April of this year.

Not too worried even though there is a chance we will have to move sometime in the next 2-3 years.

Sold my last house for about a 45% gain in only 3.5 years so can’t complain too much.

Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10056 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:20 pm to
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tell me when to buy, daddy, i got the equity to cash out and scoop up some stuff

You should have done that before rates doubled.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:21 pm to
Cant wait to get a cheap house
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
649 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:22 pm to
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You don't understand what market rate means.


It doesn't mean shite for most people because most people dont actually sell their house just because the value goes up, which is the only way paying a premium over a long period of time makes any sense.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:30 pm to
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People with large equity should be more nervous


No, they shouldn't.

COVID caused the housing market to overheat, these artificially high prices were always going to correct downward. Always. The only reason anyone with lots of home equity should be nervous is if they are thinking of re-financing (that ship has largely sailed) or if they were planning on selling within the next 3-4 years. Everyone else will feel lower property taxes until prices come back up (and they will).
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35620 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:36 pm to
This is why we chose not to purchase in July 2021 when we moved to SW Florida and extended our lease until next August. It feels like we made a good decision.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35620 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:37 pm to
Does anyone think that banks and mortgage companies will start shutting HELOCs down like they did in 2009 and 2010? I can certainly see it happening. Ah, those funds you wanted to draw? Fuggetaboutit.
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6243 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:40 pm to
Yeah I’m so mad I “overpaid” for my new house in 2021 with a 2.8% rate instead of waiting until 2022 with 6+% rates
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6525 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Because inventory will stay low with everyone sitting on their rock bottom interest rates.


Exactly. This is absolutely nothing like 2008, unless you expect the market to suddenly be flooded with foreclosures.
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
562 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:45 pm to
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The interest rates were so low that their monthly notes are probably still lower than someone buying a house today.

If you got a $600k house at 2.5% in 2021, you have the same note as someone who buys $400k at 6%+ today
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74319 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:48 pm to
Why would you be nervous if you have a 2% rate?

quote:

Does anyone think that banks and mortgage companies will start shutting HELOCs down like they did in 2009 and 2010? I can certainly see it happening. Ah, those funds you wanted to draw? Fuggetaboutit.


100% they are already cutting ltv
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 4:49 pm
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48936 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:56 pm to
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The idiots who paid massively over asking price with cash offers, which is what I’m referring to, are the people who this applies to.

A lot of these individuals moved from CA, NY, NJ, CT, etc, and set up shop in TX, TN, FL, etc, and paid a major premium to do so.
I know where we are these people saild for 1.5 million back home, came here paid $710 for a home listed for 600k cash so they are not concerned.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
48830 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

If you got a $600k house at 2.5% in 2021, you have the same note as someone who buys $400k at 6%+ today

Yeah but if you needed to sell for any reason - job move, extended unemployment etc you'd be eating the difference.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 5:00 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74319 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:03 pm to
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Yeah but if you needed to sell for any reason - job move, extended unemployment etc you'd be eating the difference.


Why would you sell
Just rent it with that rate/payment
Posted by MSUDawg98
Ravens Flock
Member since Jan 2018
10035 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:00 pm to
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If you overpaid in new build suburbia where there are vacant neighborhood tracts all around and nothing to keep that area inherently hot/desirable/inflated, then yeah, you're probably worried. These places (think new growth burbs in central FL, Phoenix, Vegas, Atlanta, etc.) took a bath.
We almost bought a home in Northern Seminole County back in 2004 but had a guardian angel nixing that. Someone I worked with bought in the same year and 5 years later the home value dropped by 50%. A big selling point was "values have only gone up here despite what the rest of the market is doing". 5 years later we bought a house in the Midwest and got twice as much house for the same amount of money. We'll probably ride out the recession after the kids move out and headed back south after selling this house.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26668 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:05 pm to
20% would be a swift kick in the crotch, but I won't be underwater by a long stretch.
Posted by ChickennBiscuits
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2019
343 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:37 am to
Asking price may as well be a plug figure and has no place in a discussion on whether or not the buyer got a good deal.
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