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re: United States of Enola Gay v. Hiroshima | Friendly | 7:25am CT...LOL (ESPN2/ESPN+)
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:02 pm to Fratastic423
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:02 pm to Fratastic423
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Hey now, I've been told he is fast. Which helps if you are getting beat on every play after you turn the ball over.
He was fast... then he tore his ACL.
And even when he was fast, he didn't exactly inspire confidence.
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:18 pm to OldmanBeasley
Saw we lost the ball 54 times in the first 45 mins
That’s actually impressive
I’ve been saying that about him for a while
It’s the typical square peg into a round hole
We don’t have the players to play the system he wants to at a high level. Most countries don’t. That takes a complete buy in at the youth levels and since most our best youngsters are in overseas academies it’s not going to happen due to a plethora of club philosophies
That’s actually impressive
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He needs to understand that as an international manager your system needs to be adjustable. You have a limited player pool and need to adjust your system based on the players available. It’s not like club soccer where you can go out and buy the players that fit your system.
I’ve been saying that about him for a while
It’s the typical square peg into a round hole
We don’t have the players to play the system he wants to at a high level. Most countries don’t. That takes a complete buy in at the youth levels and since most our best youngsters are in overseas academies it’s not going to happen due to a plethora of club philosophies
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:23 pm to metallica81788
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I don't understand why Gregg feels we have to be Barcelona Yes our talent is better than before but USA historically grinds out results by being physical, well-conditioned, solid defensively and at keep while taking advantage of good positioning and set pieces when opportunity strikes. Sure we can boss the midfield better than before but some games don't call for that. He seems unable to adjust his tactics for individual games.
It took a total buy in for Spain to do it at all levels
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:28 pm to Broski
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Again, Pefok should be in camp, but if he was there today, I don't think that fixes out shots on target issue today.
Uhh, it would have massively made a difference in the 7' with a Dest assist, and maybe would have charged the team to do better throughout.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:31 pm to Alyosha
Anyone watch post-match comments? Has Greggg come out with more "I'm smarter than all of you" brain-busting impudence?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:37 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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We don’t have the players to play the system he wants to at a high level
We have the players to play it competently, we just don't have the depth beyond those players... and that's definitely a problem.
We're in a spot heading into this tournament to where if everyone is healthy, we can dictate the play against all but like 8 teams in the field. But if one or two players get hurt, we're fricked... And one or two players will get hurt considering this is right in the middle of club season.
The biggest issue with Gregg is that there is no plan B, and we saw that manifest itself today. Japan did a really good job in attacking our weak points early on and disrupted what we were trying to do. Instead of making adjustments on the fly or at halftime in favor of something more direct... we just kept trying to do the same thing.
Surprisingly, it didn't work.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:16 pm to Broski
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we just don't have the depth beyond those players
Agreed. Our top XI gives us a chance against anyone. But our 12-23 are a bunch of MLS/Eredivisie also-rans.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:19 pm to Alyosha
We were missing clear starting left back Antonee Robinson too.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:27 pm to GeismarGeauxer
Why did we waste like 3 free kicks on offensive half of field?
Instead of getting a ball up for Zimmerman or McKennie, we kept it and then as evidence by the 0 shots on goal, did nothing.
Instead of getting a ball up for Zimmerman or McKennie, we kept it and then as evidence by the 0 shots on goal, did nothing.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:41 pm to Alyosha
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Anyone watch post-match comments?
I saw one that said we needed to play with more personality. Very Jurgy like quote.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:58 pm to Dizz
Gregg is getting roasted so bad on another forum I post on. Someone needs to step in and blow the ashes off of the table.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:25 pm to Girth Donor
Missed the game. Trying to decide if I’d rather watch the replay or just stick my hand into a running garbage disposal.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:15 pm to ned nederlander
Go full on wood chipper
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:20 pm to ned nederlander
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Trying to decide if I’d rather watch the replay
If I were japanese I'd watch the game.
I'm American and I want my time back.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:52 pm to kengel2
It was terrible and frankly not worth watching unless you want to be frustrated and watch some Matt Turner highlights.
Even with the injuries and backups this was one of the most disappointing games in recent memory.
Our CB situation is a fricking disaster, we don’t have a forward worth a shite, we can’t progress the ball, and our coach keeps trying to fit the players to his system instead of the other way around. I’m legitimately concerned we are going to get blanked in Qatar.
Even with the injuries and backups this was one of the most disappointing games in recent memory.
Our CB situation is a fricking disaster, we don’t have a forward worth a shite, we can’t progress the ball, and our coach keeps trying to fit the players to his system instead of the other way around. I’m legitimately concerned we are going to get blanked in Qatar.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:10 pm to cwil177
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I’m legitimately concerned we are going to get blanked in Qatar.
Woah. Lets pump the brakes here.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:18 pm to Broski
I mean, I’m usually someone who pumps the brakes, but come on, that was an awful game. If we don’t get two healthy CBs we are fricked. And I don’t think any of them are fast enough and good enough at passing to make this high pressing system function. Losing Robsinson kind of fricked us.
If we can’t build out from our CBs then we need midfielders who can do this. Musah doesn’t pass and McKennie is poor at ball progression. Adams should always be in a double pivot with another midfielder. Put McKennie or Reyna as a more advanced CM depending on the opponent, with an Adams/Musah double pivot and see if we progress it better. And if we are going to try whipping in crosses from our outside backs then we better have a target man to put a head on it.
I don’t see Gregg fixing all of this before the WC. Some of it, sure. But we have very, very concerning issues.
If we can’t build out from our CBs then we need midfielders who can do this. Musah doesn’t pass and McKennie is poor at ball progression. Adams should always be in a double pivot with another midfielder. Put McKennie or Reyna as a more advanced CM depending on the opponent, with an Adams/Musah double pivot and see if we progress it better. And if we are going to try whipping in crosses from our outside backs then we better have a target man to put a head on it.
I don’t see Gregg fixing all of this before the WC. Some of it, sure. But we have very, very concerning issues.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:21 pm to cwil177
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But we have very, very concerning issues.
So does every team in the group. England haven't scored from the run of play in its last 4 matches.
It was one (really) bad match. And there were definitely some issues. But I still know we will have the second most talented team in that group.
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If we can’t build out from our CBs then we need midfielders who can do this.
I don't think Aaron Long will play a second in Qatar. Richards, McKenzie, CCV are all better on the ball and have better athleticism than Long.
Musah can build out the back. We saw today Tyler playing as a lone 6 again, which only works when we are looking to hit teams on the counter. When we try to control possession like we did today, it doesn't work because his passing is way too simple. It's why in the second half of qualifying, we saw more of an inverted triangle in the midfield with Musah dropping deeper.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:23 pm to Broski
In the midfield and up top we have the talent to do it to a competitive level but not an elite level
In the back 4 and at GK no way
At CB and GK I don’t trust none of them with the ball at their feet playing it from the back under pressure
The one CB we all do trust isn’t going to get called up anymore……
In the back 4 and at GK no way
At CB and GK I don’t trust none of them with the ball at their feet playing it from the back under pressure
The one CB we all do trust isn’t going to get called up anymore……
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:27 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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In the midfield and up top we have the talent to do it to a competitive level but not an elite level
I mean, we're not an elite team. Anyone expecting that this cycle was always going to be disappointed.
Just not there yet whether Gregg was or wasn't the coach.
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In the back 4 and at GK no way
At CB and GK I don’t trust none of them with the ball at their feet playing it from the back under pressure
Jedi, Dest and Richards/McKenzie/Ream/CCV can.
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The one CB we all do trust isn’t going to get called up anymore……
Brooks has played a grand total of two minutes for club in the last 6 months. That's not a USMNT problem, it's a Brooks problem.
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