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Manuel's Hot Tamales: anyone ever duplicate the exact tamale product/recipe - update pg. 3

Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:36 pm
edit .... updated my pics and results on pg. 3



My dad is 77 and recovering from cancer. His health is slowly deteriorating, and not sure how much time he has left. He's been asking me to make him some Manuel's Hot Tamales. Definitely one of the food items myself and others miss from growing up in NOLA. Sadly, the business never re-opened post Katrina, and the family members were to busy fighting over the recipe and who actually owned it. There was talk of re-opening but that never came to fruition.

Anyway, I can follow recipes and know my way around the kitchen. I'm gonna try this weekend and see what my finished product tastes like. Anyone pull this off or have any suggestions ? StadiumRat shared with me that he made a very close copy of Manuel's but forgot to write down the exact ingredients, measurements, and cooking technique. They have a handful of "copy cat" recipes online as I'll likely have to experiment and improvise until I can perfect it. Feel free to comment or share your firsthand memories.

I remember the meat being finely ground, rolled in a very little layer of corn meal, the tamale being the size of your index finger, and the newspaper being covered in grease.


This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:45 pm to
I had a friend of mine make a huge batch of tamales, following this recipe. There used to be a Manuel's cart in front of my families bar/restaurant in New Orleans, and this def closely resembled them. Also, Ben's Pizza on St Bernard Hwy in Arabi sells their own hot tamales, but they are damn close to Manuel's. The recipe is from Judy Walker of the ole Times Pic - she knew her way around New Orleans' food. Oh, and wishing nothing but good health for your dad.

LINK
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:54 pm to
Not sure where you live, but Guillory's in Metairie makes a really close version IMHO. It would save you form having to make them.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9773 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:56 pm to
thx for the link and appreciate the well wishes

I made him some Turtle Soup last weekend (Brennan's recipe) and now he thinks I'm Wolfgang Puck Gonna spend as much time as I can with both my parents since we take so much for granted until someone has a serious health issue


@Lambda ... I'm in Laffy, but my brother lives in Mandeville, and my parents live in Franklinton .. thx for the suggestion
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1676 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:09 pm to
Best wishes. Tamales are a labor of love and your dad will appreciate it.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:13 pm to
I lived in walking distance from there in 2002. Good stuff. Never had em like that before or after. Didn’t really expect wet tamales, but good on them…that shite was good.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3167 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Tamales are a labor of love
Never made any, but I buy them locally. Made by a company or person named "Brown's" out of Houma.
Posted by AFistfulof$
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
1012 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:31 pm to
You’re referring to Mickey Browns. Good stuff. The little burritos aren’t bad either
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

I made him some Turtle Soup last weekend (Brennan's recipe) and now he thinks I'm Wolfgang Puck Gonna spend as much time as I can with both my parents since we take so much for granted until someone has a serious health issue


You're a good son! Your Dad will appreciate what you're doing and it's fun to bring back memories through food. I hope you get as close as you can get to Manuel's!

I remember something about a lady in Lafayette who sold tamales and it may have been talked about on this board. I think I'd seen something on Facebook.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:38 pm to
Found a post with this recipe.

New Orleans Style Tamales
Posted by AFistfulof$
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
1012 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:39 pm to
Tamale thread 2013

I came across a tamale thread from 2013 where you posted the recipe and Rat talks ab manuel’s
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:47 pm to
This is the thread where I asked about Meaux Tamales in Lafayette.

LINK

The Facebook page hasn't been active in several years, but there is contact information there.

Also, look on p. 2 of the thread and diat posted her site and recipe for her tamales. RetiredTiger had them and said they were good. Maybe this will help.
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1676 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

The recipe is from Judy Walker of the ole Times Pic


Very interesting that they roll the meat in dry corn meal instead of making a dough with meal or masa.

I’m surprised it picks up enough meal. I guess it puffs up some when steamed.

Will have to try that.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19192 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:29 pm to
There's a guy in Mid-City that sells tamales on Carrollton Ave. and he sets up near the Rouses/Winn-Dixie area and they are wet tamales about the size you remember Manuel's to be.

I had them once and liked them but the wife prefers a dryer tamale and we get them from Chris's Meats on the corner of Harrison Ave. and Pontchartrain Blvd. They run by the pound with a dozen usually selling in the $12-14 range.

Those are larger than the guys on Carrollton Ave. and both are made with beef.
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
2152 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:54 am to
LINK
From ben's Pizza. Certainly look like Manuel's.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 3:56 am
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 6:17 am to
quote:

There's a guy in Mid-City that sells tamales on Carrollton Ave. and he sets up near the Rouses/Winn-Dixie area and they are wet tamales about the size you remember Manuel's to be.


Was coming to post this.

He sells them out on Carrollton in front of the Winn Dixie by the Greenway.

My recollection is that he claims that his tamales are the Manuel’s recipe. He has some local women make them, he sells them.

He lives on either S. Bernadotte or S. Saint Patrick between Canal and Banks. He throws (or used to throw) big neighborhood parties in his back yard for Saints games.

You could honestly just roll up there on a Sunday and walk in and introduce yourself.

Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14104 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 6:36 am to
quote:

He sells them out on Carrollton in front of the Winn Dixie by the Greenway.

He sometimes sets up uptown on Napoleon near Freret too. I’ve had them, really good tamales.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10066 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:52 am to
Blaze, this is my comment from that old thread:

I Have the Secret to Making Tamales like Manuel's:

I knew a guy who was divorcing the daughter of the owner of Manuel's (named Schnieder). He was in a state of mind where he wasn't going to go out of his way to keep family secrets, as you can imagine. I asked him how they made them, and he said that they browned the meat and mixed all the seasonings in BEFORE rolling them into tamales.

The grease in the pot was NOT drained off. This is critical. The meat mixture was then chilled down until it solidified. Then the tamales were rolled into cylinders, rolled in the coarse corn meal and wrapped. Next came the cooking.

To make them, you can use the ingredients in the ingredients below, they are close enough to the originals. Just make sure the meat is NOT lean. And since the meat is already cooked, you don't have to simmer them as long, maybe one hour.

This is the reason Manuel's were so greasy, and so delicious.

ETA: When you cook them, you have to have the open end up, or the filling will ooze out. Roll and pack fairly tightly to help them hold together.Like this:

I have experimented with this many times, and there were several close batches and one magical time that nailed it perfectly. Unfortunately, due to my fondness of drinking while cooking, I did not remember the exact ingredient amounts. I need to work on this some more.

Here are the ingredients:

Tamales:
2 large onions, chopped
1 bell pepper, chopped
4 lbs ground beef
8 oz tomato sauce
1/2 cup Crisco shortening (only if meat is very lean)
2/3 cup corn meal
1 cup chili powder
2 level Tbsp salt
2 Tbsp garlic powder
4 Tbsp ground cumin
approx 2 Tbsp cayenne, or to taste

Cornmeal mixture:
4 cups cornmeal
1 1/3 Tbsp salt

Sauce:
8 quarts water
4 level Tbsp salt
chili powder, to taste

Best wishes to your dad.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 8:12 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19192 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:16 am to
quote:

He lives on either S. Bernadotte or S. Saint Patrick between Canal and Banks.



Yep, he's on S. Bernadotte between Palmyra and Cleveland on the cemetery side of the street about 1 1/2 blocks from "The Mortuary".

I had gotten 2 dozen from him several months ago when I saw he was selling on Carrollton. He sells them for $12 a dozen.
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1676 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Sauce: 8 quarts water 4 level Tbsp salt chili powder, to taste


Is the sauce mixed into the meat mixture only? Or is some poured over the finished tamales before steaming?
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