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Question for those blaming Mason Taylor for the blocked xp at the end of the game
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:25 am
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:25 am
How was that his fault? I rewatched it on YouTube and there was no way he was stopping that rush.
He had 3 guy over him. When the guy next to him blocked down, that left Taylor with a guy going around his outside to try and block the kick and two going to his inside and he had absolutely no help. By comparison, there we only two outside guys on the opposite side and they didn’t rush at all.
In my opinion this was on the special teams coach.
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He had 3 guy over him. When the guy next to him blocked down, that left Taylor with a guy going around his outside to try and block the kick and two going to his inside and he had absolutely no help. By comparison, there we only two outside guys on the opposite side and they didn’t rush at all.
In my opinion this was on the special teams coach.
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Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:27 am to YMCA
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In my opinion this was on the special teams coach.
Well yea. Because he didn’t teach Taylor who to block
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:30 am to YMCA
First, block someone. Second, block the inside guy. He is a freshman, in his first college game. Coaches did not put him in a position to be successful. He will learn.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:33 am to YMCA
Everything has to go perfect for the outside guy to block the kick. You block the biggest threat and that’s the inside guy that has a direct path to ball. You learn this in high school.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:33 am to YMCA
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How was that his fault? I rewatched it on YouTube and there was no way he was stopping that rush.
He had 3 guy over him. When the guy next to him blocked down, that left Taylor with a guy going around his outside to try and block the kick and two going to his inside and he had absolutely no help. By comparison, there we only two outside guys on the opposite side and they didn’t rush at all.
In my opinion this was on the special teams coach.
You’re right. There’s no way he could block 3 guys.
He could have blocked one though, and preferably the correct one. You work inside out in that situation.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:34 am to YMCA
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In my opinion this was on the special teams coach.
I think the entirety of the game was on the special teams coach.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:34 am to YMCA
You NEVER let the inside guy free on special teams. Kids learn that in HS. But yea, the coaches should have reminded them.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:36 am to YMCA
No matter what or who missed the block, it's on the St coach. The loss last night was on the special teams coach. We were shitty on special teams and it cost us the game.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:36 am to YMCA
The guy on the outside isn’t likely to get there fast enough to block the kick. The guy on the inside is. That’s why They say you should always block down on field goals. Allowing a free rusher inside is exponentially worse than allowing a free rusher off the edge.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:49 am to YMCA
quote:He didn't block anyone, specifically the inside guy.
How was that his fault?
quote:Then block the inside most guy, not blocking anyone isn't ideal.
When the guy next to him blocked down, that left Taylor with a guy going around his outside to try and block the kick and two going to his inside and he had absolutely no help.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:50 am to YMCA
Always block inside guy. Watching that made me sick all over again
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:50 am to Tyga Woods
quote:Yup.
Everything has to go perfect for the outside guy to block the kick. You block the biggest threat and that’s the inside guy that has a direct path to ball. You learn this in high school.
Kicking blocking is the first and original zone blocking scheme. Except that zone is always to the inside.
The defense can always outflank you. It's just a matter of time, literally. So don't help them out by shortening their time to launch point.
ETA: my problem is the same "flaw" happened in the first half. It's not a mistake if it happens more than once.
This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:52 am to I20goon
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The defense can always outflank you. It's just a matter of time, literally. So don't help them out by shortening their time to launch point.
Exactly. It’s a numbers game.
You’re always going to have 1 fewer blocker than rusher, sometimes 2 fewer.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:57 am to RB10
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Everything has to go perfect for the outside guy to block the kick. You block the biggest threat and that’s the inside guy that has a direct path to ball. You learn this in high school.
most basic rule of xpt protection. learned first day of high school special teams practice. I can hear my coach now "you dumbass, make outside guy run the hump to block the kick"
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:57 am to YMCA
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there we only two outside guys on the opposite side and they didn’t rush at all.
Oh, so we just go honor system and shift our guy over?
Jesus. Taylor blocks the inside guy and we are good, he didnt. The outside guys are he kickers and holders responsibility.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 9:58 am to YMCA
If Kelly would have added a second finger (or just opt the middle one up for show) this would be a moot point. Extra points are essential, but teams PRACTICE two point plays for just this situation
Posted on 9/5/22 at 10:00 am to lashinala
Btw, anyone check the snap to kick times? Bet the FSU coaches WERE!
Posted on 9/5/22 at 10:00 am to tigerfoot
He stepped to the outside or his left. You never give up the inside. If he steps down or to the right, it doesn’t get blocked.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 10:06 am to lashinala
quote:That!
Btw, anyone check the snap to kick times? Bet the FSU coaches WERE!
AND, freshman kicker... when does his movement start, on snap or on holder getting ball down?
No kicking expert by any means but if a K waits on the holder to get it down it lengthens that time also.
The snap and that movement were probably tracked closely so they had a read on if they need a block where to overload (inside vs. outside) knowing that an outside path is easiest IF the K is giving you time.
If the K and snap isn't giving you time, you have to count on the more difficult path via the inside.
However, in this case they caught the flaw earlier in the game where they weren't blocking down and one was blocked without overload. When they needed a block they went to that weak spot AND overloaded it.
Posted on 9/5/22 at 10:14 am to YMCA
FG and XP protection is simple; no one beats you to your inside gap. It is virtually impossible to block a kick coming from the outside. He was responsible for the gap that the man who blocked the kick went through; did he know this? I do not know.
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